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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2007, 08:19:22 am »
GS-Hol's shock is only in danger of blowing under his lard arse.  :bootyshake: He only rides on roads that require no suspension at all. (die paadjie na jou plot tel nie hoor) :laughing4:

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2007, 08:27:27 am »

Oh Yes that reminds me - I'll send your copy of LWR I borrowed back on Friday.

Oh, thanks, then I can put it back into the toilet.
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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2007, 08:41:32 am »
I can't speak for other forum members but IMHO the long way whereever is just a PR & media stunt.
I have done a bit of overland travel per bike. I never had a backup crew to haul spares after me or to service and fix my ride.

And: Why the new seat? Ain't they supposed to stand all the long way down?

They do it in their way, with PR media etc or what ever reasons. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with doing it different than you or me are doing it?

Many if not the most of overland travels are in bigger groups with backup trucks nowadays, with photographers, film men that do the PR job for the tour company. This means they're not having fun and that style of travelling should be fully banned? It's not the right way of travelling?

Yeah, I travel alone too, but this doesn't mean I bash those who do it differently, nomatter which way.

You started it, I think every forum member is eager to know about your extensive overland travel experience that apparently exceeds any LWR or LWD profile - so tell us LeCap, where you've been, how far, stunning adventures!!!??? Any reports, pics?  :notworthy:
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« Reply #103 on: June 14, 2007, 09:23:39 am »
+1 Tsik, could not have said it better myself!
 

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« Reply #104 on: June 14, 2007, 09:39:23 am »
They do it in their way, with PR media etc or what ever reasons. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with doing it different than you or me are doing it?

Exactly! Well said!!
 

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #105 on: June 14, 2007, 10:11:52 am »
- It's doesn't take much to organise one of these trip. The most difficult bit is breaking away from your routine and safe bubble. Then it's just a matter of saving some cash and going...you don't really need much. Any more (back-up, sponsorships, bla bla bla) is overkill and adds to preparation effort....but if you need that safety net then thats up to you. The other most difficult bit is getting SA Home Affairs to issue you a new passport withing 12 months. ???
- If I was E&C I would have told BMW to GS-ify the new G650 XChallenge and taken them.
- Softer seat: Why didn't they just slag a skaap and slap the skin on the seat. Works a treat for me. (No seriously it does really make a huge difference to the narrow XR plank)
- Parts: The type of bike is irrelevant when something breaks in Sudan, or most other Africa countries. BMW, KTM, Honda...all of them will needs parts flown in when soemthing, other than bearings, break. But at lease no matter where in Afrcia you are you are not more than 5 minutes away from someone with a welder and a roll of blou-draad.
- If E&C give ALL the profits of the movie to UNICEF then I will be impressed, otherwsie they will just be another attention seeking celeb crew in my eyes.

 
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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #106 on: June 14, 2007, 10:41:19 am »
- If E&C give ALL the profits of the movie to UNICEF then I will be impressed, otherwsie they will just be another attention seeking celeb crew in my eyes.

If they don't give ALL the profits away they were just seeking an all expenses paid adventure - something we all dream about.  IMHO I don't think neither Charley not Ewan needs to seek any attention.


 

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« Reply #107 on: June 14, 2007, 11:05:52 am »
Well yes...but I do think Charley's acting career could do with a boost ;) (Anyone else see him standing at the bar in the movie about the TRC "In My Country" with that boere meisie and Samual L Jackson)
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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #108 on: June 14, 2007, 11:13:00 am »
Hahahaha,

I'm not very into LWD, LWR sort of thingys, but it's nice to see how jelous some people can go  ;D

Bashing BMW because of blown rear shocks, they've should taken 1150s or KTMs instead of 1200s etc etc. Group moaning.

Do that with your own bike, then start bashing others, nomatter who or how big superstars they are on what bikes.

They do it their way. You must do it in your way, ...but if you're not doing it, then shut the feck up. It's always easier to critisize than to really do it.

Like someone used to say:

Guys, be wise men, not some short-dick syndrome moaning tossers! ;D


So heads up guys, get on your bikes for a long ride and properly cool your brains, you'll feel much better O0

Bit sensitive there lad.
I and others were not bashing BMW in regards to the rear shock.
I was honestly surprised they had blown two of them.

I do recall something about the old mono-shocks lasting longer because they don't have the joint that the later models use.
The bit that pivots at the lower rear with the rubber seal over it?
And many of us here have done long tough rides on a variety of bikes, so we can be expected to have our own opinions on LWR/LWD and the bikes they have chosen to use.

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #109 on: June 14, 2007, 11:50:08 am »
These guys are actually working. They just have a better job than us, i doubt there are actually many jobs better than that. (insert big green envious smiley here)
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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #110 on: June 14, 2007, 11:50:37 am »
I don't have to ride rtw in order to have an opinion of their trip. Dog gave me brain and I pretty much form my own opinions.  I don't preach it like gospel, but do share it on a forum like this - so herewith...

Although not entirely void of adventure, riding rtw world or from Cape to Cairo with 2 backup vehicles, all the spares to build a 3rd bike, liaison specialists, event organiser, food and water, a doctor, etc etc is as much of an adventure (as per definition) as shooting canned lions or cage shark diving or eating pom food.  There's a hint of the feeling, but we all know its not the real thing.

So although its 'their way' - their way sucks - imho.  If i ever have the opportunity (not all of us are Jedi knights or Colgate models), I would do it in the traditional fashion, because that is what adventure touring is about - an adventure, not a PR circus (part of the adventure is funding it I suppose). 

Its also up for debate what is more of an adventure - riding alone or with a bud or two through remote areas (like a lot of us do) for a week or two - or joining the circus for 2-3 months through Africa?

Again only my opinion

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #111 on: June 14, 2007, 11:57:45 am »
Bit sensitive there lad.
I and others were not bashing BMW in regards to the rear shock.
I was honestly surprised they had blown two of them.

I do recall something about the old mono-shocks lasting longer because they don't have the joint that the later models use.
The bit that pivots at the lower rear with the rubber seal over it?
And many of us here have done long tough rides on a variety of bikes, so we can be expected to have our own opinions on LWR/LWD and the bikes they have chosen to use.

Not being sensitive at all. Just expressing my personal opinion about mayhaps a bit uneducated opinions.

Well you see now, we all have a freedom to express our opinions, this it's no problem; the real problem is that people tend to criticize and bash on basis of things that they have no experience on their own.

Lasting of the rear shock mostly depends on your riding style, the load of the bike, preload settings etc etc the things the rider must take care of. The quality of the shock, considering how well they are built by WP (same as KTMs) or Showa that BMW uses, is somewhere far behind in that list playing the factor in their falure.

Do you know their riding styles, how much load they have on the bike, what their bike weights, what roads are they taking, how careful they are going through a half a metre deep pothole series with a fully sponsored bike?

If you don't know these factors, then I'd better not bash or compare it with my own experiences with shocks that even aren't comparable with them.

The same thing apply to the rest of technical list on the bike, no matter what bike is it. It's around 90% up to the rider, maybe around 10% to the bike. If you take care of your bike like it's your only fortune, ride it carefully, set it up correctly and inspect it regulary, then it'll probably last 100X longer than the one who trashes it around like it's stolen.

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #112 on: June 14, 2007, 12:07:40 pm »

So although its 'their way' - their way sucks - imho.  If i ever have the opportunity (not all of us are Jedi knights or Colgate models), I would do it in the traditional fashion, because that is what adventure touring is about - an adventure, not a PR circus (part of the adventure is funding it I suppose). 

Its also up for debate what is more of an adventure - riding alone or with a bud or two through remote areas (like a lot of us do) for a week or two - or joining the circus for 2-3 months through Africa?

Again only my opinion


If..., ...if, if I was a jedi etc.

If I was E&C I'd take HP2s with big HPN tanks, have 2 backup trucks full of educational books for children offered in schools for free in Africa, in hope, that in the future people will be more understanding about respecting other people's way of life and not being negative in their opinions mostly. To educate them that the short-dick syndrome towards the successful superstars can be easily cured, jelousy can be controlled and opinions can be more educated. And some sense of humor can be left into people too to not take everything so personally.

I think we'll have no wars on Earth then.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #113 on: June 14, 2007, 12:21:00 pm »
IMHO, here is an adventure that I followed and could not wait for the guys next post, would love to have the time to follow in footsteps.

http://www.contrast.cx/
 

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #114 on: June 14, 2007, 12:24:58 pm »
Good morning everyone, its "National No Sense of varking Humour day".

And in the words of Johnny,

Oh, and realize that if some little wanker Scottish actor can ride around the world on a GS after two days of offroad training, you can ride a few miles in the dirt too.
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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #115 on: June 14, 2007, 12:26:33 pm »
Good to see some people have some positivism left still!!!

IMHO, here is an adventure that I followed and could not wait for the guys next post, would love to have the time to follow in footsteps.

http://www.contrast.cx/

I agree, been following his stories and pics, for a long time, the parts before and afer his crash. Makes me dream too...

Stunning stuff!
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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #116 on: June 14, 2007, 01:06:46 pm »
Bit sensitive there lad.
I and others were not bashing BMW in regards to the rear shock.
I was honestly surprised they had blown two of them.

I do recall something about the old mono-shocks lasting longer because they don't have the joint that the later models use.
The bit that pivots at the lower rear with the rubber seal over it?
And many of us here have done long tough rides on a variety of bikes, so we can be expected to have our own opinions on LWR/LWD and the bikes they have chosen to use.

Not being sensitive at all. Just expressing my personal opinion about mayhaps a bit uneducated opinions.

Well you see now, we all have a freedom to express our opinions, this it's no problem; the real problem is that people tend to criticize and bash on basis of things that they have no experience on their own.

Lasting of the rear shock mostly depends on your riding style, the load of the bike, preload settings etc etc the things the rider must take care of. The quality of the shock, considering how well they are built by WP (same as KTMs) or Showa that BMW uses, is somewhere far behind in that list playing the factor in their falure.

Do you know their riding styles, how much load they have on the bike, what their bike weights, what roads are they taking, how careful they are going through a half a metre deep pothole series with a fully sponsored bike?

If you don't know these factors, then I'd better not bash or compare it with my own experiences with shocks that even aren't comparable with them.

The same thing apply to the rest of technical list on the bike, no matter what bike is it. It's around 90% up to the rider, maybe around 10% to the bike. If you take care of your bike like it's your only fortune, ride it carefully, set it up correctly and inspect it regulary, then it'll probably last 100X longer than the one who trashes it around like it's stolen.

Got the point?

There is no point.
You have your opinion and it differs to some others here.
Doesn't mean you're right, or anyone else here is wrong.
E and C have chosen to make their latest adventure another fully media supported ride, complete with a daily updated website.
So one can expect people to make comments about it, that's obviously what E and C want, even bad publicity is still publicity!
Some comments you will agree with, some you will not.

As for much weight the bikes are carrying and how E and C are riding I think it can be generally agreed that the BMW's GS series are supposed to take this kind abuse...at least that's the impression BMW likes to give the world about their adventure bikes.
And E and C's bikes can't weigh anymore than my old mono-shock BMW did when I was carrying camping and luggage for two people and had the pillion on the back.

Cheers: Jaq.

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #117 on: June 14, 2007, 01:10:51 pm »
Heino and Ale arrived in Aswan this morning...two up on a Transalp with as much as they can fit into two panniers. That takes some doing. No back-up crew, no satilite phones. They must really love each other ;)

They were glad to hear that while they were in the White desert they avoided the LWD cavalcade who blasted down the Nile route to Aswan.

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #118 on: June 14, 2007, 01:25:34 pm »
Hey guys, Ewan's hot and I will watch him travel around the world any day!!!!!!  And if some of the money goes for a good cause - even hotter.  (Apologies to Charlie)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's a good avertisement for DS riding for people outside of our DS circle and that's great.  All of us do stuff to attract attention as best as we can for our cause and this si one way and a good way, as far as I am concerned.

And hell, its a better way of attracting media attention than constantly being drugged or pissed, crashing yoru car and ending up in prison and certainly they are better role models than THAT person.  I'd love to see more "stars" do this than the other.
 

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Re: Long Way Down - Happening
« Reply #119 on: June 14, 2007, 02:34:21 pm »
Nice one EV ;D

If my wife was active on this forum she will agree with you.
When i watch LWR i have do the slow motion stuff when they film Ewan ;D ;D

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