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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2010, 07:53:35 pm »
Man that part in the end is a water roost and a half on milddog!!  :imaposer:
 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2010, 08:59:17 pm »
I Suggest you give Mario from dirtrider a call for some advise. 021 5560356

I reckon you should flush that motor a couple of times. Dont run it for long with the 1st flush.

Im happy for you, that you didnt crank the engine after the water incident.
 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2010, 09:13:20 pm »
Did you drown it more than was shown in the video?

What I saw in the video was not terminal ingress. Looked more like HT or ignition system. When you guys towed it did you gooi it in gear and drop the clutch a few times?  ???
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2010, 09:39:19 pm »
dropped it in mud puddle later, but no more drowning than shown in video.

no, i've been doing that all day with the spark plug out, but no didn't drop the clutch while being towed.
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2010, 09:42:10 pm »
Did you take the head off?
 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2010, 10:04:41 pm »
Did you take the head off?

no. just spark plug. dunno how to do head.
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2010, 10:18:17 pm »
It's pretty easy, I did it myself, just remove that magnesium cover on the top, then you will see the cams, remove cams, and then remove bolts that hold that hold the head, you will be at the piston then, if you were looking to get to it.

I downloaded the workshop manual, explains it pretty easy
 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2010, 11:19:34 pm »
I reckon just flush it a few more times...

you should be fine:D
 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2010, 11:20:00 pm »
It's pretty easy

Even with one hand? >:D
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2010, 12:53:01 am »
I reckon just flush it a few more times...

you should be fine:D

i am thinking so. just struggling to get the diesel/water out of the cylinder, but it seems to have brought up lots gunk/dirt so i'm happy i chucked the diesel in there. i just need to get above the piston dry so i can start washing through oil and all that.
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2010, 11:19:35 am »
The following was written by Hoofseun when Puddles drowned her bike a while back.

FIRST THING - Get out the water to a safe place.

The first thing we did was to get Zanda out the water and then to get the
bike out the water.


Lesson learned:  During this event the first action by all was to jump in
the water and start helping.  The net effect is that cell phones, watches,
cameras that were not in water proofing got damaged.


SECOND THING - Decide what to do?


Decide whether to try and drain water from system next to road or take
bike home.


We decided on the latter as it would be safer and there is no reason that
force the fixing of the bike next to the road, except for showing off my
"technical" skills.


Lesson learned:  The better option was to take it home as all tools are
available, no sand from clothes and hands can enter bike.  It is also
easier to dry all components and leave it at a safe place.


THIRD THING - Get the bike home


The option was to either call a friend or tow the bike home.  We decided
on the latter as it was important to act while there is still a lot of
andrenaline as well as not to further effect the groups ride out.


Lesson learned:  Have a good tow strap on "each" bike or at least one in
the group.  Must have towed before.  Pull away and stand-up immediatedly
(both riders) as it goves more control.  Rear bike brake front bike. Take
it "rustig".  Can towe through traffic and town.


FOURTH THING - Gather information


Phone as many friends as possible and get information.  Decide what works.


There was also and option to take it to dealer next day for them to fix.
Decided aainst it as this is a real situation that can happen anywhere.


Lesson learned - Getting all information before you start gives you better
options.


FIFTH THING - Start working


1)  Take the exhaust off and drain all water.
2)  Remove, drain and dry and clean all other things like lights etc.
3)  Take airbox off and get filter and all water out.  24 Hours later the
air filter was not dry yet.
4)  Take spark plugs out.
5)  Put bike on its side, even close to upside down to drain all water
that may be caught in funny places.
6)  Put dry (petrol free rags) around the spark plug leads - seems right
thing to keep sparks off motor.  Keep fire extinguisher handy.
7)  Drain water out of air inlets (carburators must be drained)
8)  Turn motor with starter motor to get water out cylinder head.
9)  Drain fuel.
10)  Check engine oil colour (it was fine after recovery but white after
above process).
11) Drain all oil from engine.
12) Remove oil filter and throw away.
13) Stand overnight to drain.


SIX THING - Start wrapping up


1)  Buy enough good oil.
2)  Buy two engine oil filters.
3)  Buy one air filter.
4)  Fit new oil filter.
5)  Add new oil to the right level.
6)  Let bike idle for 10 minutes.
7)  Drain engine oil.
8)  Clean oil filter.


Redo process 4 to 8 four times.


9)  Fit new oil filter.
10) Add right oil.
11) Put new air filter back.


SEVENTH THING


1) Test all components.
2) Have checked by knowledgeable person.
3) Test ride for two weeks as it is a good commuter and nice excuse to use
the wifes bike.


Lessons learned: Do a good job as you will have to rely on the bike in
some future trip.  Do not be in a hurry.  Standard air filter does not dry
that easily.  No water in oil after recovery does not mean no water in oil
after cleaning water from cylinders.  Draining oil one cycles does not
clean wall water.  Oil filter takes a lot of water with oil.


And as Riel said,  at string water crossings, stop and plan for it and
have someone ready assist in case of mishap.


Biggest lesson:  If in doubt that you will make it, do not do it.  There
are always other alternatives.


 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2010, 11:48:35 am »

Thanks. that makes sense :) then how do i get the diesel out after?

If the sump plug is out the diesel should just come out  ??? We used to flush big hydrovane compressors this way as well. Just fill it up with diesel and then drain it until there is no sign of water. It is cheaper than flushing with actual oil. Small amount of diesel left in the engine won't do any damage as it is oil based in any case.

The thread from Hoofseun seems a good thorough method as well.
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2010, 12:14:47 pm »
I think water is still in the header and has been drawing back into the cylinder. I will take the exhaust off today and possibly admit that I need help and take it to Tim at TMC.
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2010, 05:09:22 pm »
It was water in the header! Took off the entire exhaust. Sput it a bit. reassembled it all and she works  O0 I never thought I'd be so happy to see smoke pouring out of my bike! she idles fine. Seems there was no damage. Now for a bunch of oil changes and back on the alternate route we go  :thumleft:
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2010, 05:22:36 pm »
Good to hear and happy the bike is running again  :thumleft:
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2010, 06:29:47 pm »
yeah me too! I'm awesomely happy. Thanks to all those involved! Tim, Crossed-up, N[]va, new guy and a bunch of others offered advice and comments :) thanks!
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #76 on: July 14, 2010, 06:32:56 pm »
Yayyy!
 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2010, 06:42:38 am »
water went up through the exhaust into the cylinder and down via the airbox. in future take off the header when you dry out the airbox, i kept drying the cylinder and then water from the header would bounce up into the cylinder and undo my drying efforts :) my bike's running just fine. 3 oil changes and i'll be good to go!
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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2010, 06:37:01 pm »
Where did you get the light from? Does it take a while to switch the brights on?
 

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Re: Milddog's DRZ pimp thread
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2010, 07:40:21 pm »
Where did you get the light from? Does it take a while to switch the brights on?

I got it from a shopping centre called china town- big bulk importers from the far east. R350 for the kit, with 6 month guarantee. It turns on with the bike (half second delay), but it takes a little while to get to full brightness. It turns on instantly but it takes about 3-4 seconds to get to full bright.

I am posting one to another WD from GP, if you want one PM me and we can sort it out.
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