Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register

Author Topic: Which Plastic?  (Read 1933 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BlueBull2007

  • Caribbean
  • Global Moderator
  • Bachelor Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: AJS (all models)
    Location: Other
  • Posts: 10,557
  • Thanked: 521 times
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2011, 07:53:18 pm »
Yip I agree with Wolweseun and others. A 4T is quite a beast too, so I would consider one.

Maintenance is straight forward enough to be able to yourself with some help from the dawgs and Thumpertalk.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 07:53:40 pm by BlueBull2007 »
Rally nut. What could possibly go wrong?
Living the Rally Dream - Ride Report
Current bike: KTM 350 EXC   Previous bikes:  2010 WR450F, 2006 KTM450EXC,KTM 450RR, BMW800GS, KTM450EXC, BMW650 GS, BMW650 Dakar, and Honda XR250
 

Offline tau

  • hasbeen and a
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: Yamaha XT 750 Z Super
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 3,966
  • Thanked: 36 times
  • The Tool from Tulbagh
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2011, 08:06:01 pm »
Hey berm
Bra. Kyk almalk gaan se wat hulle wil, maar nie eeens jy weet hoe en wat jy gaan opeindig om te ry nie.
Enduro tien to one.
honda is oud hulle het 2005 laas 2 smoke gemaak of iets. Jy kan die husky 2smoke koop net nie die 4 stroke nie jy race met die ding nie DS nie.

KTM 300 is ook nie bad nie, maar as hy moeg is gaan dit baie kos om weer te restore.

Jy moet op die yz tank sit en handgaurds. Die gearbox is nie nodig nie. Ek het met 'n kx en yz 250 gerace met standaard gearbox met 15 48 gearing as dit vinnig raak.

Flywheel weigjt is nce.

Etienne 2 smoke het nice yz te koop
2021 Yamaha YZ 450 FX
2021 Yamaha T7 Tenere
1981 Yamaha TT600
 

Offline I&horse

  • You look like a
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 950 Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 3,796
  • Thanked: 46 times
  • was Andy 950
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2011, 08:23:01 pm »

honda is oud hulle het 2005 laas 2 smoke gemaak of iets. 

Dis ongelukkig jou probleem hier. :-\
Silence is golden...... Duct tape is silver

Everything works with smoke, if the smoke escapes, it stops working.
 

Offline wayneh

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BSA (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 1,120
    • South Africa's dual-sport motorcycle rally
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 08:33:24 pm »
There is a nice looking 2007 Husky WR 250 for sale in Cape Town which is fitted with an auto clutch.
http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-scooters-motorcycles-motorbikes-Husqvarna-250-cc-Enduro-bike-2007-W0QQAdIdZ289878143

This looks like my old enduro bike... sold it some time ago... she is seriously sorted for hard enduro & trail riding.

I am not a very good enduro rider, but over the years I have owned (2-strokes) 2x KDXs, a YZ, a RM, and a Husky - and a 4-stroke KTM plastic. All very different.
The Husky WR250 was the most competitive ride - great bottom & mid-range power, seemed to run out of revs too quickly, but LOTS of quality for your buck.
The KTM had the best suspension setup. The 4-stroke is awesome for trail riding (more relaxed, just riding the torque).
Had to spend quite a bit to the YZ for trail riding. Most of the power was from the 3/4 to full throttle, so you had to ring her hard. With the WR box & flywheel weight she completely changed - much more ridable.
Only used the RM for motorcross... when I was young, and reckless. Great for the track, can't comment on enduro riding - but I haven't seen many around.
I loved both my KDXs. Speak to a cross-section of enduro riders and you may be surprised... The KDX has a very strong following. It won't be as sorted as most of the others (out-of-the-box), but with the very low price you can easily afford to do the stage 2 enduro upgrade, and have the suspension customised for your weight & riding style. Makes an awesome ride which will start every time(bullet-proof engine) and costs nothing to run. This would be my choice.  :thumleft: 
Enjoy.

 
   
 

Offline voorvel

  • aka dirtWarp
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 990 Adventure
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 3,487
  • Thanked: 145 times
  • I crash like a champ!
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 08:45:14 pm »
Sorry to say this but you can not setup a bike for MX and enduro.

With YZ and CR, you WILL HAVE to change the springs and revalve the forks, else, you are gonna bounce around like a bunny in the rocks (and become tired quick)

I've ridden a 300exc back-to-back with KX250 and KX450F, mother of all differences.
300exc will bottom out like crazy on MX track and nose dive into corners
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 08:46:14 pm by dirtWarp »
 

Offline I&horse

  • You look like a
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 950 Adventure
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 3,796
  • Thanked: 46 times
  • was Andy 950
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2011, 09:00:37 pm »
Sorry to say this but you can not setup a bike for MX and enduro.

With YZ and CR, you WILL HAVE to change the springs and revalve the forks, else, you are gonna bounce around like a bunny in the rocks (and become tired quick)

I've ridden a 300exc back-to-back with KX250 and KX450F, mother of all differences.
300exc will bottom out like crazy on MX track and nose dive into corners

what exactly are you saying here?

Silence is golden...... Duct tape is silver

Everything works with smoke, if the smoke escapes, it stops working.
 

Offline sidetrack

  • Keep it real, keep it a single
  • Gentleman Dog
  • *
  • Bike: Yamaha XT 660 Z
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 15,563
  • Thanked: 568 times
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2011, 09:10:43 pm »
Sorry to say this but you can not setup a bike for MX and enduro.

With YZ and CR, you WILL HAVE to change the springs and revalve the forks, else, you are gonna bounce around like a bunny in the rocks (and become tired quick)

I've ridden a 300exc back-to-back with KX250 and KX450F, mother of all differences.
300exc will bottom out like crazy on MX track and nose dive into corners

what exactly are you saying here?


He is saying the suspensions are totally different, you choose mx or enduro for it to work
Little by little, one travels far
J.R.R Tolkien
 

Offline voorvel

  • aka dirtWarp
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 990 Adventure
    Location: Europe
  • Posts: 3,487
  • Thanked: 145 times
  • I crash like a champ!
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2011, 10:47:11 pm »
Sorry to say this but you can not setup a bike for MX and enduro.

With YZ and CR, you WILL HAVE to change the springs and revalve the forks, else, you are gonna bounce around like a bunny in the rocks (and become tired quick)

I've ridden a 300exc back-to-back with KX250 and KX450F, mother of all differences.
300exc will bottom out like crazy on MX track and nose dive into corners

what exactly are you saying here?


He is saying the suspensions are totally different, you choose mx or enduro for it to work
It felt like cheating when riding the EXC in the rocks, it would simply gobble up the obstacles, allowing me to stay on track.
Being on MX suspension required me to wrestle the handlebars in order to stay in line. The forks are simply too harsh
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 10:48:01 pm by dirtWarp »
 

Offline Bill the Bong

  • Coffee Monster
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: Cagiva Elefant 900
    Location: Northern Cape
  • Posts: 4,856
  • Thanked: 222 times
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2011, 10:34:23 am »
I think 1 aspect that could be make a difference is that that 1 could buy a new YZ250 or RM250 today.  Granted, it could be considered 2007 models because both have not been updated for a long time.  However, both are much cheaper than 4T models and much cheaper than the same KTMs (if cheap is your thing). The point is that spares should be easily available due to current(ish) model status (Yam obviously easier than Suz).

Bill
 

Offline sidetrack

  • Keep it real, keep it a single
  • Gentleman Dog
  • *
  • Bike: Yamaha XT 660 Z
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 15,563
  • Thanked: 568 times
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2011, 11:02:15 am »
I think 1 aspect that could be make a difference is that that 1 could buy a new YZ250 or RM250 today.  Granted, it could be considered 2007 models because both have not been updated for a long time.  However, both are much cheaper than 4T models and much cheaper than the same KTMs (if cheap is your thing). The point is that spares should be easily available due to current(ish) model status (Yam obviously easier than Suz).

Bill
Only Yamaha builds new 2 strokes.
Little by little, one travels far
J.R.R Tolkien
 

Offline Bill the Bong

  • Coffee Monster
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: Cagiva Elefant 900
    Location: Northern Cape
  • Posts: 4,856
  • Thanked: 222 times
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2011, 07:52:03 pm »
And KTM.  And Husky  :biggrin: I could buy a new RM250 for R51 000 earlier this year.  I don't like yellow.
 

Offline Rough Rider

  • Grey hound
  • ****
  • Bike: Husqvarna (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 5,047
  • Thanked: 56 times
  • Hang time
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2011, 10:54:56 am »
And KTM.  And Husky  :biggrin: I could buy a new RM250 for R51 000 earlier this year.  I don't like yellow.

Suzuki stopped making RM 250 in 2009.
Current rides: 2015 WR250F / 2016 690R / 2017 701SM
 

Offline PEET WEET

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 950 Adventure S
    Location: Free State
  • Posts: 1,480
  • KTM .. I'F you Hesitate... Accelerate !
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2011, 07:55:09 pm »
Well guy`s here my 2 c. I have been riding enduro bike`s for just about 13 years now and all  Depends on what you gonna do with the bike.I prefer the 4 T`s like ktm 450/530 just because of the nice low down torque up in lesotho mountains but the 2 T`s do have the KG advantage  Fat tube like me don`t mind the wieght to benifit of all that low down CONTROLLABLE torque. But i`m of the point now, CR,RM,KX not in prod anymore! Stick with the YZ man. I`m a ktm fan but those yz`s are giving the ktm`s a run for there money at the ROOF from 2008 to last year and i have to say a saw a lot less boil up bushmens pass last year than the ktm`s    :pot:    and they are bulletproof
KTM   --  KRONREIF  TRUNKENPOLZ  MATTIGHOFEN
KTM   --   KARLO TIETO MARIO !!

THE ORIGINAL WHITE  PANT RIDER   !!!
:paw:
 

Offline Woestersous

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1150GS
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 1,113
  • 1150 GS "Helga" CR250R "Piglet"
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2011, 01:10:27 pm »
I've got the '03 model CR, fitted KX250 Hyde zorst/bashplate and had the fork done, still need to get weighted flywheel. Bike is awesome in sand but hard work on rocks/hard pack, ask Tau what I looked like at his training day. The CR delivers a serious punch!  Your'e welcome to check mine out, not for sale though. Stroke Her has a '01 that will be for sale shortly, he bought a ktm 300. His is stock. Btw, if you want to change the CR to enduro I hope you can custom build braces etc, in SA there are no off the shelf parts for enduro to fit the CR 2t !!!!

If you ride mostly hardpack, get a enduro bike but if you ride mostly sand, consider mx.

As ek reg onthou is jy 'n lang dude...ek het nogal die CR se cockpit verkies bo die YZ, maar jy kan beslis nie verkeerdgaan met die YZ nie.
 

Offline Pote

 

Offline Berm_Rooster

  • is childish hooligan, not a
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1200GS HP2
    Location: Mozambique
  • Posts: 4,377
  • Thanked: 1 times
  • Mossel Bay every other 6 weeks
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2011, 10:17:48 am »
Very nice Pote. Bike looks in pristine condition, an I really like the Geico decal kit. However, it does not fit my criteria because it's a 4t. Also, I rode a CRF250X of a buddy of mine once, and I am of the opinion that the engine has to wokr too hard. Granted, in a racing application with a 70kg laaity on it and engine srvice on tap, it can be a winner, but its not for me.
 

Offline Berm_Rooster

  • is childish hooligan, not a
  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1200GS HP2
    Location: Mozambique
  • Posts: 4,377
  • Thanked: 1 times
  • Mossel Bay every other 6 weeks
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2011, 10:25:59 am »
I suppose its time to let the cat out of the bag!

I went and did what I always do... ignore all the good advice and buy with my heart.

I am on my cell, so I can copy and paste links, but I bought GarthVader's Husky WR250. You'll find it on the 3rd page or so of the for sale board. One of the big drawing points for me was the fact that I can ride from home to where I want to play without the need to trailer. Also, the bike is in very good condition and is already road legal.
 

Offline Snafu

  • Grey hound
  • ****
  • Bike: Honda XR125L
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 9,005
  • Thanked: 92 times
  • Brackenfell Bricket
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2011, 10:33:18 am »
Rimtape: Sounds like something in the first-aid kit of a gay-porn movie set. - Jaco
 

Offline Woestersous

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1150GS
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 1,113
  • 1150 GS "Helga" CR250R "Piglet"
Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2011, 10:41:59 am »
Verrrrrrrie Nice Peter!!!!!
Must be awesome enduro bike, think it's very underrated!!!! Enjoy.
 

Offline Bappas

Re: Which Plastic?
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2011, 03:30:16 pm »
CR and KX  are bitches The Yamaha can take wide ratio box and suspension is the
most friendly for enduro?fun riding( After Changes) Huskies has a reputation for expensive to maintain and fix.  Nice bike though.
"Life is like a jar of Jalapeno peppers...What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"