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KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« on: June 28, 2011, 11:04:28 am »
The new 2012 KTM 500 looks to me to be the ultimate DS bike
Lots of grunt ,6 speed,EFI, Light, proper fuel tank

What do you guys think

My Definitions DS = Dual Sport = DRZ400, XR650, KTM525 TE610 KTM 690 etc
Adventure Bikes = KTM 990 BM800 BM 1200 etc

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 11:06:45 am »
nice bike... but i don't consider it a DS or Adventure bike... its not road worthy.
 

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 11:10:58 am »
nice bike... but i don't consider it a DS or Adventure bike... its not road worthy.
agreed, the way I see it too a D/S needs to be road worthy and offroad capable
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 11:11:56 am »
nice bike... but i don't consider it a DS or Adventure bike... its not road worthy.

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My Definitions DS = Dual Sport = DRZ400, XR650, KTM525 TE610 KTM 690 etc
Adventure Bikes = KTM 990 BM800 BM 1200 etc

My and your definitions are the other way around.
The 'sport' in your 'Dualsport' is enduro/MX with added road ability.
The 'sport' in my 'Dualsport' is going fast on tar with added offroad ability.
;D ;D ;D

Also - for me 'Adventure bike' is more rough than a 'dualsport'.

;D ;D ;D

Still a nice bike though.

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 11:14:24 am »
nice bike... but i don't consider it a DS or Adventure bike... its not road worthy.
agreed, the way I see it too a D/S needs to be road worthy and offroad capable
and a bigger tank, 9.5L is a tad small if you would consider using it as a DS.
It's a good enduro machine I would think. Weighs as much as the 450! :thumleft:
 

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 11:55:56 am »
nice bike... but i don't consider it a DS or Adventure bike... its not road worthy.

Most sites say it will be street legal. In that case it could be near to perfect, except for longer tar  trips. I always said it should just be street legal enough to get you to the dirt.
 

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 12:11:03 pm »
I don't know about being the Ultimate DS bike but I think I have found my Ultimate day PLAY/ADVENTURE bike  >:D

 
Engine type Single cylinder, 4-stroke
Displacement 510.4 cc
Bore/stroke 95/72 mm
Compression ratio 11,8:1
Starter/battery Kick- and electric starter / 12V 4Ah
Transmission 6 gears
Carburetor Keihin EFI, flow restrictor 42 mm
Control 4 V / OHC with rocker levers
Lubrication Pressure lubrication with 2 oil pumps
Gear ratios 14:36 17:32 19:28 22:26 24:23 26:21
Primary ratio 32:76
Final drive 14:50 (13:50)
Cooling Liquid cooling
Clutch Wet multi-disc clutch, Brembo hydraulics
Ignition Keihin EMS
   
Chassis   
Frame Central double-cradle-type 25CrMo4
Subframe Aluminium
Handlebar Neken, Aluminium Ř 28/22 mm
Front suspension WP-USD Ř 48 mm
Rear suspension WP-PDS shock absorber
Suspension travel front/rear 300/335 mm

Front/rear brakes Disc brake Ř 260/220 mm
Front/rear rims 1.60 x 21''; 2.15 x 18'' Excel
Front/rear tires 90/90-21''; 140/80-18''
Chain X-Ring 5/8 x 1/4"
Silencer Aluminium
Steering head angle 63.5°
Wheel base 1,482±10 mm
Ground clearance 345 mm
Seat height 970 mm
Tank capacity, approx. 9.5 l
Weight, without fuel, approx. 111.5 kg

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 12:13:47 pm »
Ja f@k, that elusive 6th gear on the older DS bikes ???  Man my XR would be nice with a 6th gear, I'll even swop a lectric start for the 6th gear! :peepwall:
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 12:24:32 pm »
Wonder what the top speed on that thing is?
I must say - if it had been a twin................................different story!

Nope - will stick wiff the SE fanks!
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 12:26:24 pm »
Mark is sorted...farkin long legs for that seat height...AND he has a fuel bowser as a companion on ALL his trips :mwink:

Got to admit , that bike is seriously droolworthy
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 01:25:22 pm »
Mark is sorted...farkin long legs for that seat height...AND he has a fuel bowser as a companion on ALL his trips :mwink:

Got to admit , that bike is seriously droolworthy

 :biggrin: all 32 liters worth...... :thumleft:

 

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2011, 04:50:14 pm »
Now if only KTM would Adventurize it.....decent lights, 20l tank, small screen..... :drif:
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2011, 05:59:24 pm »
 :drif: :drif:
DS is a unique concept to everyone.

To me, YES the 500exc is the ULTIMATE.
As you know, the clutch comes standard with cush.

And it is road legal. Go look at the 2011 450exc on Ducati/KTM's floor in centurion; indicators as standard.

Everyone longs/drewls at the thought of a 25L tank but it's waaay overkill.
I've been on long rides with 9.5L (1200km) Sidetrack felt kinda silly running that 25L tank on his 525 as its not really required and adds additional weight exactly where it shouldn't.

As for top speed.. it will produce the same topend power as the 525, 160KM on GPS with some.
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2011, 06:05:22 pm »
Also Wolweseun, don't discard the ergonomic difference between this 500 and your group of bikes listed under DS.

My 2009 450 was leaps ahead of my 2006 525. It steered much better and felt much, much smaller.
While the seat is wider and softer  :thumleft:

Also, this 500's motor mos weighs 2.5kg less. It's gonna be a machine!
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2011, 06:27:24 pm »
Well sorry for changing the topic, but guy`s have you seen the 500 six day`s WOW WOW WOW :o Pitty ktm not bringing any in.Ktm in bloem told me you had to order one in feb this year but how can you order something that we only heard of in mid april and only saw pic`s of the 2012 range in april.
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2011, 06:41:31 pm »
:drif: :drif:
DS is a unique concept to everyone.

To me, YES the 500exc is the ULTIMATE.
As you know, the clutch comes standard with cush.

And it is road legal. Go look at the 2011 450exc on Ducati/KTM's floor in centurion; indicators as standard.

Everyone longs/drewls at the thought of a 20L tank but it's waaay overkill.
I've been on long rides with 9.5L (1200km) Sidetrack felt kinda silly running that 23L tank on his 525 as its not really required and adds additional weight exactly where it shouldn't.

As for top speed.. it will produce the same topend power as the 525, 160KM on GPS with some.
You ran out of fuel  :biggrin: No I agree 25L is too big, you don't need any bigger than a 15 L.
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2011, 12:21:19 am »
You ran out of fuel  :biggrin: No I agree 25L is too big, you don't need any bigger than a 15 L.

HaHaHa...I would imagine a +/- 360 km range is the minimum.

Still, the Hoosaberg 570 will be my choice (as if I have the $$$)

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2011, 07:57:35 am »
 :drif: Wow won't mind than berg in my garage! Just look at that frame in yello ! Is that the 2012 berg   
because if my memory serves me right it must be black on the 2011. Just wish ktm stuck to the black rims as last year's models they do make the bike look so much better but i do think the silwer one's         won't show marks that fast like the black tend to.Think the new 2012's with the EFI also have to   prove itself in terms of reliability when things get hot for hour's up in the mountans !
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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2011, 09:02:08 am »
Lol sidetrack  :biggrin:
Let me put it this way; I would rather push my bike 100m to the nearest fuel station, than ride 500KM with a 25L tank  :)

I was thinking about buying a 570 too.  :drif: :drif: KTM SA sold a 2009 a couple months ago for 35K!

The problem that I found was that it's a bit heavier on fuel than my 450 and aftermarket tanks are insanely expansive  :-\
 

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Re: KTM 500 is it the Ultimate DS Bike
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2011, 09:17:23 am »
Well sorry for changing the topic, but guy`s have you seen the 500 six day`s WOW WOW WOW :o Pitty ktm not bringing any in.Ktm in bloem told me you had to order one in feb this year but how can you order something that we only heard of in mid april and only saw pic`s of the 2012 range in april.

That's a 350 EXC-F
But yes they looks awesome.
Looks like black spokes though  ???

EXC = SOHC, EXC-F = DOHC
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