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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2011, 01:50:08 pm »
The only bike currently on the market which compares to the 630 TE is the KTM 690. Trying to compare anything else to the 630 is definitely not comparing apples with apples.
Having owned a 690 and now a 610 I know some of the strengths and weaknesses of both, and naturally you can put two and two together too work out which I prefer. Unfortunately I have never ridden, or even seen a 630 in the flesh, so can't really comment too much on them.

All I can say there seems to be huge resurgence in the Husky brand since BMW took over and currently Huskies are leading two of three world enduro championship classes, and one of the SM classes.

In the States both the 610 and 630 enjoy huge respect and are well loved bikes. In SA the weakness of the brand, or should I say perceived weakness, is the importer. Having said that I personally have never had an issue with them regarding service or spare part availability and price.   

Oh BTW dirtWarp; you are correct the 510 is older technology it was replaced last year by the 511. And if you are in the market for an enduro bike, which the KTM 500 exe most certainly is, the best one around, judging by the world championship results is the Husky 310.

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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2011, 07:00:39 pm »

Hi everybody,
                    please advice me on the Husky te630 as Im getting tired of waiting for my XR650to arrive.
   How suitable is it for dual sport / adventure touring.
   As a lot of my riding is on my own how relyable is it. Is there any maintenance isues.
   Are spares freely available and are spares expensive.
   Can it cruise at 120/130 clicks.
   Apparently there is a mod done by the dealers to make it faster, what is that and how much.  
   The importers are welcome to chip in.
   Oh my my, she is sooo pretty.
   Thanks in advance.

Love the old school Hondas.
Got a 2010  XR250 Tornado and a 2007 XR650R.
While considering a XR650L, I bought a SM630.
After that, scratch the XR650L and have ordered a TE630.

The Husky 630's tick a lot of boxes that the Old school Hondas just don't.
Build and component quality is top notch - Brembo brakes, Excel rims, Marzochi shocks etc.
The ride and feel of the 630's is modern and smooth.

Yup, we know Husky resale is a crapper, but were buying the bike to ride and not to re sell (well, not now anyway ).

The Power Up kit (+- R680) makes a huge difference and a JD Jetting kit (+- R1600) added thereto makes another nice difference resulting in a fast and tractable ride. Configured as above, the bike flies and is still pulling at 8400rpm.

Reliability is good and so is fuel range, easy 200km on the standard tank.
Besides a faulty voltage regulator and some moisture in my instrument cluster I have had no other issues in 7 months.

My SM is nice and comfy, TE should be the same, just a different seat fabric that's all.

Spares - much of a muchness compared to my XR650R experience with Honda.
If not in stock Primrose gets within a few weeks from oorsee.

I have heard of guys getting 185km/h on their SM630's, so +160 should not be a problem on a TE given the gearing differences  and so 120/130 should be an easy cruise with 6 cogs in the box.

As an adventure tourer I believe the TE to be more suited and that is why I have ordered one.
Have never ridden the 650L and with money and space perming (which they are not) I would love to have one in my collection.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2011, 07:03:35 pm by M3X3Z3 »
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2011, 07:05:22 pm »
Thanks for the info  :thumleft:

Did you ride a 690?
You can't exactly compare a 1990 design XR to a 2010 Husky.
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2011, 08:46:22 pm »

Hi everybody,
                    please advice me on the Husky te630 as Im getting tired of waiting for my XR650to arrive.
   How suitable is it for dual sport / adventure touring.
   As a lot of my riding is on my own how relyable is it. Is there any maintenance isues.
   Are spares freely available and are spares expensive.
   Can it cruise at 120/130 clicks.
   Apparently there is a mod done by the dealers to make it faster, what is that and how much.  
   The importers are welcome to chip in.
   Oh my my, she is sooo pretty.
   Thanks in advance.

Love the old school Hondas.
Got a 2010  XR250 Tornado and a 2007 XR650R.
While considering a XR650L, I bought a SM630.
After that, scratch the XR650L and have ordered a TE630.

The Husky 630's tick a lot of boxes that the Old school Hondas just don't.
Build and component quality is top notch - Brembo brakes, Excel rims, Marzochi shocks etc.
The ride and feel of the 630's is modern and smooth.

Yup, we know Husky resale is a crapper, but were buying the bike to ride and not to re sell (well, not now anyway ).

The Power Up kit (+- R680) makes a huge difference and a JD Jetting kit (+- R1600) added thereto makes another nice difference resulting in a fast and tractable ride. Configured as above, the bike flies and is still pulling at 8400rpm.

Reliability is good and so is fuel range, easy 200km on the standard tank.
Besides a faulty voltage regulator and some moisture in my instrument cluster I have had no other issues in 7 months.

My SM is nice and comfy, TE should be the same, just a different seat fabric that's all.

Spares - much of a muchness compared to my XR650R experience with Honda.
If not in stock Primrose gets within a few weeks from oorsee.

I have heard of guys getting 185km/h on their SM630's, so +160 should not be a problem on a TE given the gearing differences  and so 120/130 should be an easy cruise with 6 cogs in the box.

As an adventure tourer I believe the TE to be more suited and that is why I have ordered one.
Have never ridden the 650L and with money and space perming (which they are not) I would love to have one in my collection.

+1 and here I am, thinking I'm the only XR fan preferring a Husky!
Just one thing - the newer Huskies don't use jet kits, as they're fuel injection.
Please keep us posted on your TE630's arrival, and some real world pics would be great too!
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2011, 08:49:20 pm »
Thanks for the info  :thumleft:

Did you ride a 690?
You can't exactly compare a 1990 design XR to a 2010 Husky.


Never had the chance to ride a 690, heard it's quite a monster.

Medium term goal - put a 450 EXEC 6 Days in the Portfolio.   http://www.ktm.com/sa/enduro/450-exc-six-days.html

You know what, you can take the 650L and a 630TE on the same trip and both will do the same job, no arguments there.
The only real issue I have with the L (and the R for that matter) is fuel range where gas stations are far apart.
As far as I know,  to get +200km range on a 650 you need the big Acerbis tank and that extra weight that high up is something I would like to avoid.

If R50K is all you want to spend, then the L is definitely the way to go,  plus a few K for the Acerbis.
On the other hand if you are willing the spend R80K, then for reasons stated above, then the TE will get you there with a tad more panache and a little less attitude. :ricky:
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 08:55:39 pm »

Just one thing - the newer Huskies don't use jet kits, as they're fuel injection.


JD Jetting provides an affordable and simple to use under-the-saddle FI programmer that you can use to modify the standard FI fueling profile that uses a similar philosophy of tuning a carburetor - ie idle circuit, part throttle, mid range, full throttle and pump jet etc.
 
http://www.jdjetting.com/html/products.htm
« Last Edit: July 20, 2011, 08:57:01 pm by M3X3Z3 »
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2011, 09:30:51 pm »

Just one thing - the newer Huskies don't use jet kits, as they're fuel injection.


JD Jetting provides an affordable and simple to use under-the-saddle FI programmer that you can use to modify the standard FI fueling profile that uses a similar philosophy of tuning a carburetor - ie idle circuit, part throttle, mid range, full throttle and pump jet etc.
 
http://www.jdjetting.com/html/products.htm

Thanks for the info! That's a bargain at R1600! Do you have to change the exhaust also with it?
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2011, 09:35:15 pm »
Are you going to sell that XR650R then?  :drif:
 

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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2011, 09:39:13 pm »

You can't exactly compare a 1990 design XR to a 2010 Husky.


No you can't, it's not fair to the Honda given it's aged heritage.

But, the fact that you can in fact do the comparison and that the Honda gets a respectable score even though it doesn't win the comparison is testament to what a great bike it still is even after 20 years.

The Honda looses the technical comparison for sure, but is definitely doesn't loose the attitude. :biggrin:
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2011, 09:49:05 pm »
Are you going to sell that XR650R then?  :drif:

Problem with the Doggies is that they drain the Hooligan out of you.
You need an XR to regularly re introduce Hooligan into your system.

So for the forseeable future I would definitely like to keep the R in my collection, for Mental Health reasons, you understand.
However, at the right price, i suppose everything is for sale. :pot:
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2011, 09:56:53 pm »

Just one thing - the newer Huskies don't use jet kits, as they're fuel injection.


JD Jetting provides an affordable and simple to use under-the-saddle FI programmer that you can use to modify the standard FI fueling profile that uses a similar philosophy of tuning a carburetor - ie idle circuit, part throttle, mid range, full throttle and pump jet etc.
 

http://www.jdjetting.com/html/products.htm

Thanks for the info! That's a bargain at R1600! Do you have to change the exhaust also with it?

Nah, not at all.
I am still running the stock exhaust with the cats, still relatively quiet that way and that's the way I intend to leave it.
Even with the stock pipes the acceleration is awesome.

Have heard that the twin arrows pipes can be loud.

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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2011, 08:14:13 am »
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I am still running the stock exhaust with the cats, still relatively quiet that way and that's the way I intend to leave it.

I found when I had my CAT removed from the stock pipe that it actually seemed a bit quieter  ???

I didn't measure using a decibel meter before and after so my perception is subjective, but it certainly doesn't seem louder to me.

If I hold my hand a few centimeters from the back of the exhaust when its idling the noise of the gas pulses hitting my hand gets quite loud, but as soon as you take your hand away its actually quite civilised.  Plus it has a nice deep throaty sound compared to with the CAT in (which I suppose is personal preference).

At speed on the highway I think its quieter than with the CAT.

The difference in performance with the CAT removed from the 610 is quite marked!  I would assume you get the same improvement with the 630.
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2011, 08:37:01 am »
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Never had the chance to ride a 690, heard it's quite a monster

I rode a 690 but only very briefly on tar and I wasnt trying to wring its neck or be a hero.

I did manage to break the back wheel lose in a corner on tar without trying  :P

It goes very well and its nice and light.

But I think the 610 handles better and has a better spread of power (the gearbox suite the engine and application very well) - if I had to race a course that was relatively technical I would lap faster on the 610 than the 690 I think.  Even though the 690 would leave me behind in a straight line drag.

One should also remember that the 690 is actually a 650 while the 610 is actually a 570 to put the relative power difference in perspective.  And the 690 is quite highly strung when it comes to tuning I believe. 

Still the 690 is a VERY nice bike and I wouldn't say no if someone gave me one, but am very glad I bought the 610 instead (I started off looking for a 690).

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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2011, 08:44:54 am »
Husky has just released pics of their new 900cc SuperMotard. Its uses the F800 BMW motor that's been bored out a bit.
The reason I'm saying this, is because I wouldn't be surprised if a DS version pops up in the near future...
 

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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2011, 10:02:09 am »
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I am still running the stock exhaust with the cats, still relatively quiet that way and that's the way I intend to leave it.

I found when I had my CAT removed from the stock pipe that it actually seemed a bit quieter  ???

I didn't measure using a decibel meter before and after so my perception is subjective, but it certainly doesn't seem louder to me.

If I hold my hand a few centimeters from the back of the exhaust when its idling the noise of the gas pulses hitting my hand gets quite loud, but as soon as you take your hand away its actually quite civilised.  Plus it has a nice deep throaty sound compared to with the CAT in (which I suppose is personal preference).

At speed on the highway I think its quieter than with the CAT.

The difference in performance with the CAT removed from the 610 is quite marked!  I would assume you get the same improvement with the 630.
Very interesting.
Food for thought, possible peformance gains but more importantly is a potential weight saving of +1.2kg on either side of weight that sits high up. Difference between a stock 630 can and the Arrows replacement is 1.5kg of which the cat must (I think) be the greatest part.
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2011, 10:05:09 am »
I just saw a post by Blazes, mentioning that the 630SM and TE might be discontinued  :o
 

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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2011, 11:01:37 am »
 :eek7: I don't think it will be discontinued internationally, cause apparently it sells well in the US and Europe. Probably only in SA we will loose it. Years ago the same happened to XR's, and then after it was discontinued in SA cause of too little sales, everybody suddenly want one. Just my 2c's.
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2011, 04:46:33 pm »
I just saw a post by Blazes, mentioning that the 630SM and TE might be discontinued  :o

Source of this rumour is on Cafe Husky.  Not sure that its worth taking seriously IMO. 
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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2011, 05:02:51 pm »
Being a Husky Cafe rumor, might indicate this to be on a global scale  ???
 

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Re: Husky te 630 for adv riding
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2011, 10:38:47 am »
Buks - are you in George - if so, who currently services your 610?
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