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Offline Pumbaa

WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« on: August 02, 2011, 11:06:21 pm »
I'm looking for some useful info on these 2 different models  The KTM is the 2T, and not the 4T 250 EXC F model.  In particular, I'm looking for a bit of advice on the following.

Reliability of engine
Engine durability
Cost of maintenance
Maintenance frequency
Cost of parts

I have the opportunity to get hold of some relatively new WR250s.  I can get it from a place where they use them for introduction to offroad training.  The bikes might get dropped a bit more than when owned by someone who race them, but the engines are definitely not used to full potential.  The bike gets sold off after about 50-60, 4 hour rides, so an average about 200 hours on them.  Maintenance gets done by someone with about 30 years motorcycle mechanical experience in the British army.  The WR250F will cost me around GBP 3500

Alternatively, I can get hold of a 2010 250 EXC for around GBP4000 (no specific info on history, there are a few KTM available).

Now I know the bikes are 'completely' different, ie 4 stroke and 2 stroke, but that is unfortunately the limits of my knowledge.

What bike should last me a bit longer...(I know, very general question...).  Whether I get the Yamaha or the KTM, it probably won't be used to its full potential by me either, due to lack of skills/experience.
 

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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 07:51:35 am »
200 hrs on a WR250 and its completely poked, I've heard some guys say they are only good for about 100 hrs and then time to get rid of them.
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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 10:17:16 am »
Think I would have to agree with RR. those little DOHC 250`s do high rpm and tend to not have that long life when compared to the 250 2T ktm or say Yamaha 250 2T.
But on the other hand our Enduro and offroad champ Jade Gutzeit sed on the last Kei Enduro that he prefers the 290 4T Yamaha [thats the 250 wr with a big bore kit] to the 250 2T that he did the Roof and the past enduro`s on. He sed its got more USABLE power ! So it basicly comes down to what you want to do with te bike and wat kind of riding you are going to be doing I would say ! :thumleft:
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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 10:38:24 am »
You know now that I read my own post I saw that I  didn`t get to the point I was trying to make.Wat I am trying to say here was made by a nother WD on the ktm/bmw enjin life thread. He sed that he would rather buy the bike that does wat he want`s it to and fits the kind of riding that he is going to do the best than worry about enjin lifetime and runnig cost ens ens. ;) ;)
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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 06:04:35 pm »
Thanks for the replies  :3some:

I found some interesting comparisons on the following link regarding engine rebuild.  Looks like a big difference in engine rebuild between 2T and 4T.  This relates to KTMs though.  Not sure about Yam prices

http://www.edmondson-racing.co.uk/two_stroke_engine_rebuild.html

http://www.edmondson-racing.co.uk/four_stroke_engine_rebuild.html

I'll eventually be competing in some enduro races, but in the novice groups first, and hopefully move up after a season or so.  I would like to think that I will eventually use most of the bike potential
 

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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 02:50:24 pm »
200 hrs on a WR250 and its completely poked, I've heard some guys say they are only good for about 100 hrs and then time to get rid of them.

100 Hr ? Ek kan dit nie glo nie. EK besit n Wr250f en Yz250f met albei meer as daai ure op. Hulle word gebruik om te race, ek het al van wr gehoor met 400 hr op, geen probleme daar nie. Alles gaan oor maintenance van jou fiets.

 

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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 03:00:20 pm »
The 250 exc is a great bike. It has plenty usable and predictable power.

200 hours done by different riders on a high strung 4t   :o   Stay away.

2 strokes are very simple and cheap to maintain.
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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 03:18:03 pm »
Raced three years on a WR250 never gave a problem.easy to start in difficult situations.push the button and off you go.parts are way cheaper and nearly always in stock.depends what you want to do.the WR is easier to ride and more forgiving
 

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Re: WR250F vs KTM 250 EXC - info needed please
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 03:22:01 pm »
Wr 250 f  is super eliable and low maintenance, much better than any other 250 4 stroke.

However the KTM 250 is propably the best enduro bike out there, I said it and I am a HUGE Yamaha fan, I hate 2 strokes so for me thw Yamaha wins, however if you are fit and train hard the KTM 2 strokes is no. 1 enduro bike.

If you are play riding the Wr is stunning .
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