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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2011, 10:28:07 pm »
Hardly a down side. Little bit loss of power.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2011, 10:32:22 pm »
Jupiter cut your losses, dismantle the bike and sell it off as used spares.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2011, 10:37:40 pm »
Jupiter cut your losses, dismantle the bike and sell it off as used spares.

Nope. Never been beaten by an enjin. Just got to get to know it and I'll make it go sweet. First ever fuel injection motor so just a little lost.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2011, 10:40:32 pm »
put sugar in the tank and it will run sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2011, 06:32:14 am »
Please excuse my ignorance, but if the down side of an engine running too lean is over heating, what is the down side of an engine running too rich?

BigD, interesting - same knocking sound from my EishPee's left pod.  :3some:   :biggrin:

Ja maybe we should move our question to the EishPee thread ... maybe normal? Just never remembered it on my ADV but then maybe it was masked by the big tank etc? Strange as the last time I set valves I was especially pedantic and set them toward the losser side if anything and the ticking seemed more pronounced? have heard the old adage that noisy valves are happy valves ... but why just on that side??
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2011, 08:01:50 am »
Please excuse my ignorance, but if the down side of an engine running too lean is over heating, what is the down side of an engine running too rich?

BigD, interesting - same knocking sound from my EishPee's left pod.  :3some:   :biggrin:

Ja maybe we should move our question to the EishPee thread ... maybe normal? Just never remembered it on my ADV but then maybe it was masked by the big tank etc? Strange as the last time I set valves I was especially pedantic and set them toward the losser side if anything and the ticking seemed more pronounced? have heard the old adage that noisy valves are happy valves ... but why just on that side??

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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2011, 08:13:26 am »
Will do. And lets keep the discussion on enjin noise here. If need be I'll change the heading to apply for all 1200's.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2011, 12:58:59 pm »
Please excuse my ignorance, but if the down side of an engine running too lean is over heating, what is the down side of an engine running too rich?

BigD, interesting - same knocking sound from my EishPee's left pod.  :3some:   :biggrin:

Ja maybe we should move our question to the EishPee thread ... maybe normal? Just never remembered it on my ADV but then maybe it was masked by the big tank etc? Strange as the last time I set valves I was especially pedantic and set them toward the losser side if anything and the ticking seemed more pronounced? have heard the old adage that noisy valves are happy valves ... but why just on that side??

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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2011, 08:21:16 pm »
Thanks for the kind offer Schlowy - might take you up on it.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2011, 08:26:30 pm »
My AM is bestel en sal hom seker oor die naweek fit. Sal laat weet wat gebeur.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2011, 09:55:27 pm »
My AM is bestel en sal hom seker oor die naweek fit. Sal laat weet wat gebeur.

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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2011, 10:04:07 pm »
So I bought and fitted the Acceleraror Module.

As promised. Over night delivery and quick to fit DIY. Thanks Schlowy.

The enjin is smoother on idle and pick-up from low revs, but still not good enough for my liking. Maybe I'm just over sensitive about it.

The knocking noise is still there, but much less pronounced and now goes away at 2500 revs where before it was at 3000. Whether the bike pulls stronger I have no Idea. To me it goes like snot in any case, as I was used to smaller, less powerful, enjins.

My conclusion is that the gadget definately does something good, but I will have to also look at the proper tuning/set-up on the enjin- balance TB, check valve clearances, etc. But so far so good.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2011, 09:51:40 am »
Thanks Jupiter - a good, balanced review.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2011, 04:19:49 pm »
Today I took the bike and gave it a bit of open space. A GSA can redline and boy, does it fark-off. Scared myself shitless.

I noted that here from 3rd gear on, through the gears, when I accelerated hard, the enjin pick-up was not smooth and seemed to smother/choke ? Too lean or too rich ? I think lean.

So far then, I still think the bike needs a decent tune-up. Otherwise, man I love riding it. I think I will be able to live without my AT.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2011, 10:20:46 pm »
Took the bike in(twice) to get the enjin set-up sorted. Not happy, as the noises were still there. I said no enjin beats me, so I sat and pondered for a while(ZEN) and then the simplist of solusions came to mind... EARPLUGS.

Now I'm just going to ride the bloody bike and enjoy it.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2011, 10:43:02 pm »
Earplugs :imaposer: :imaposer: that is funny!
Jupiter, also try to find the thread in which Goose had the same sort of issues with his BM, they did a lot of dyno-testing with Superbike solutions, and they had discussions with BMW about it. Maybe something there?
                                                 
 

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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2011, 11:02:52 pm »
Ek is al om die blok met die ding. Accelarator Module ook ingesit. Myne is 'n 2007 model en hulle was blykbaar die raserigste van die lot. Niks fout met hoe die enjin loop nie, net die irriterende knock(ping ?) tot met 2500 revs onder lading. Nou berus ek my maar eers en ry die bike.

Maar thanks, ek sal soek vir Goose se thrread.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2011, 11:08:31 pm »
Moet ook net byse, met die dinamieka van 'n boxer is dit eindlik 'n wonder dat hulle hom so oor die algemeen stil kry. Nou laat dit 'n besondere geluid uitstaan en dan klink dit nie reg nie. Op my ou Boxers kletter alles en dis reg. Niks klink verkeerd nie. Eintlik maar weird enjins. Jy moet nie bekommer oor die geraas nie. Leer dit goed ken en as dit verander, dan soek jy fout.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2011, 07:23:27 am »
A week or two back I set all valves again and did the rocker endplay ... very anal... and seems to have helped the noise I was hearing on the LHS pot. These engines are very forgiving even when out of spec.
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Re: 1200 ADV Engine knocking noise
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2011, 07:59:54 am »
I ride with earplugs every day. Only time when I don't is when running errands when I know the speed is not going to be above 80.
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