My issue with scorch is that they stick the same pipe and same end cans on all their bikes. I really like them and I think their workmanship is great, but there's very little research that goes into a Scorch pipe, compared to say a Yoshi or an Akro or an FMF. You can get a decent pipe landed for between R2000 and R4000, depending on what you choose and from where. Rather save up and do that. My leo vince cost me R3600 in total, which is quite a bit.