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Offline GRIM

Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #100 on: September 21, 2011, 02:49:55 pm »
My GIS software has a "Coordinaes of centroid" function...
but it's far more fun watching you guys work it out...
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #101 on: September 21, 2011, 04:00:13 pm »
Quote from: GRIM on September 21, 2011, 02:49:55 pm
My GIS software has a "Coordinaes of centroid" function...
but it's far more fun watching you guys work it out...
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Come on Grim, put us out of our misery then, please.

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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #102 on: September 21, 2011, 05:54:12 pm »
S29 03.478 E26 13.538 was thought to be the center of south africa by Adolf Hitler
Legend has it that the house was intended as a refuge for Adolf Hitler in case he needed
to flee from World War II. Even the architecture is modelled on Hitler’s holiday house,
Berghof, in the Obersalzberg in Germany
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #103 on: September 22, 2011, 04:37:14 am »
Very interesting DJ, That's 6kms from Bloem. They didn't have Google Earth and GPS back then, so Bloem (about 170kms from the current Centroid) is not a bad take. Considering the rendition of Maps were very rough back then and borders shifted constantly.

RobC, Good Idea to explore using Barkley West as a base.

You are based in the OFS so presumably not too far. Us Gautengers are not too far - around 450kms away as the crow flies.

I would be keen to hook up for a reckie around and plant a WD centroid marker. This weekend is a bit soon for me but next weekend or the one thereafter would suite me better.

The tar road to Barkley West from Jhb is very boring, so I'm studying some dirt routes to make the trip more interesting.

Who's keen to explore the surrounds and plant a marker?
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2011, 08:21:18 am »
Also keen but this weekend is already booked.

I will take some pics of "Berghof" or Hitlers house though... a few years ago it was used as a nightclub but due to its location the sound of music tended to travel quite far at night... the folks at Hillsborough had it closed down, it may be a guest house now.
http://www.olivechefschool.co.za/publications_and_other/Berghof.pdf
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2011, 12:26:42 pm »
Berghof Restaurant looks very interesting. Is the restaurant going? I tried to call the number but says it does not exist.

I wouldn't mind having a meal there - do you think they would mind some dusty bikers?  :ricky:
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #106 on: September 22, 2011, 12:54:14 pm »
Quote from: White Rhino on September 22, 2011, 12:26:42 pm
Berghof Restaurant looks very interesting. Is the restaurant going? I tried to call the number but says it does not exist.

I wouldn't mind having a meal there - do you think they would mind some dusty bikers?  :ricky:
They moved to Woodlands estate, only realized that after posting... the website is out of date! :mwink:
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #107 on: September 22, 2011, 01:33:52 pm »
A Journey to the centre of SA could be an adventure with a difference. I've never had the pleasure of riding that part of SA. What can one expect?

The timing might be bad with so many upcoming events - GS ECO challenge 6-9 Oct, CABC 22-25th Sep (this weekend)  and the WD Annual Bash Date: 14-16 October 2011.

Who can squeeze in a weekend adventure?

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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #108 on: September 22, 2011, 01:48:17 pm »
sounds like a jol, leave staurday morning and back sunday arvie to jhb
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #109 on: September 22, 2011, 02:16:36 pm »
Quote from: White Rhino on September 22, 2011, 01:33:52 pm
A Journey to the centre of SA could be an adventure with a difference. I've never had the pleasure of riding that part of SA. What can one expect?

The timing might be bad with so many upcoming events - GS ECO challenge 6-9 Oct, CABC 22-25th Sep (this weekend)  and the WD Annual Bash Date: 14-16 October 2011.

Who can squeeze in a weekend adventure?


well if you make it the 5th of Nov you can try out our straight line rally here at Bloemfontein Off Road Club... and see the fireworks later that night.
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=77575.0
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2011, 05:22:59 am »
That could be a plan. :thumleft:

Would then suggest taking off the Friday to get down (using the long way down method - offroad where possible and practical for more cross country adventure). Saturday doing the Rally and Sunday morning find the Centroid plant a marker, have brunch and then head back around midday.
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2011, 11:34:11 am »
Might be nice if each person trying to find the spot can bring a rock of about 100mm dia from their area to plant at the spot, just to show a unity from every area possible in the country???
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2011, 11:43:02 am »
Quote from: XTFREAK on September 23, 2011, 11:34:11 am
Might be nice if each person trying to find the spot can bring a rock of about 100mm dia from their area to plant at the spot, just to show a unity from every area possible in the country???

If there are few spots that could be the right one your load is going to get heavy!  ;D

But I think its a great idea.  :thumleft:
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #113 on: September 23, 2011, 12:43:35 pm »
Don't they have enough Rocks in the Free State   :peepwall:

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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #114 on: September 26, 2011, 02:44:16 pm »
Well, given that the Bushveld Complex (or at least the mafic part) is much denser than the sediments of the western Cape and karoo, I reckon the centroid should be about Randfontein.  Isn't that what they use to calculate the road levy for wheat?

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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #115 on: September 26, 2011, 02:45:15 pm »
Berghof as it is today... just a big residence now.
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #116 on: September 26, 2011, 02:47:05 pm »
Quote from: roxenz on September 26, 2011, 02:44:16 pm
Well, given that the Bushveld Complex (or at least the mafic part) is much denser than the sediments of the western Cape and karoo, I reckon the centroid should be about Randfontein.  Isn't that what they use to calculate the road levy for wheat?

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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #117 on: September 26, 2011, 03:12:35 pm »
No Rob, we need something contestable, otherwise the forum would get boring!   ;D

Come on GRIM, spoeg dit uit!!!
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #118 on: September 27, 2011, 05:15:46 am »
RobC, Berghoff looks pretty locked down - maybe ex gestapo headquarters :mwink:
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Re: Where is the geographic centre of South Africa?
« Reply #119 on: September 27, 2011, 08:25:04 am »
Quote from: White Rhino on September 27, 2011, 05:15:46 am
RobC, Berghoff looks pretty locked down - maybe ex gestapo headquarters :mwink:
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