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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #180 on: January 04, 2012, 07:28:13 am »
The vapour from trailtech can be set for both MPH/KMPH also has revs, change lights and I have ordered a dash mount with various light lenses that will give me neutral light, indicators and another one, ..... it can also support a sensor that mounts under the spark plug that will give temperature in the head area.

 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #181 on: January 04, 2012, 07:31:30 am »
I was thinking of using hammerite on the frame , after sandblasting, velvaglow for the side covers and tailpiece in white to match polysport plastics and tank.

 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #182 on: January 04, 2012, 07:35:07 am »
Can't wait to see the results Wildcoast!

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #183 on: January 04, 2012, 07:40:26 am »
I can't wait to get on two wheels again, bit of a learning curve but will be worth it in the end, patience ,patience, but at least I have a very well informed DR support group to help me along!  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #184 on: January 04, 2012, 07:44:22 am »
I like your thinking. Sounds like a good plan.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #185 on: January 04, 2012, 07:49:33 am »
I'm also sniffing around for an exhaust can, want to remove the twin pipes to get the weight down and mount a tool tube where the second muffler was mounted, something not overly raucous.... was thinking 2nd hand gsxr-1000 K1 or K2 can... so if anyone knows or hears of one needing a new home please let me know.
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #186 on: January 04, 2012, 08:37:23 am »
I feel a kicking and screaming into the Digital Age coming , with a Vapour on my bike ...thanks, that heat sensor idea REALLY sells it !

Hammerite is GREAT STUFF , hoo boy is it tough. But dammit does it take a long, long, long time to release it's retained solvent and get develop it's full properties.

I've posted this before, but let me repeat. I made up a test plate with Hammerite/Velvaglo/Coastcote/Some arb enamel.

The Hammerite stayed cheesy for weeks.

Eventually though, you could not get your fingernail into it, and it really looked the toughest of the lot. You can't go wrong, great product , just be patient. Velvaglo is not as tough but it's anti-sagging properties help you apply a reasonable finish if you're a schmuck newbie with a spraygun like me, and you can thin with TURPS ! Cool solvent when you don't have a spray booth and have to breath some shit in! : )

I used Velvaglo for another reason, I had some in stock, I use it on my ' farm '  to paint stuff like generators and wheelbarrows all the time.

I have this very wild space in the Klein Karoo, where my wife and I and dog live like raw savages much of the year.

When all your bikes are ready, we must have a gathering there. It's in the middle of adventure biking heaven, and you'll have a true bush experience like few folks ever get these days.

There is nothing quite like staring half pissed into the flames of a fire, with something large crashing through the bushes behind you, and you have no idea what it is ..... :D
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #187 on: January 04, 2012, 08:41:37 am »
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where my wife and I and dog live like raw savages much of the year.

 :laughing4: I can relate!

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #188 on: January 04, 2012, 08:47:41 am »
Zorst Can .... Wanted on Gumtree ?

BTW there is a brilliant Welschman down here in the Cape, his name is Geoff Talbot. He runs a very relaxed retirement business from his home workshop.

He uses Staintune stainless basic canisters , and a number of prefab cones, pipes, bends, perforated tube etc to custom make virtually any exhaust configuration you want.

He's the kinda dude you give a drawing to, and your bike, and get a one-off exhaust back, and his prices are ridiculous, like R1000 ?

Maybe R1500 ?

His number is 021 531 8429

Of course there are a number of fabricators out there but few work in stainless as well as Geoff.

Here, let me attach a pic of the pipe he made for my Tiger , I think he charged me about R1400. Awesome dude.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #189 on: January 04, 2012, 08:54:40 am »
Sorry, being a twatwaffle, I should mention that Geoff could use MY bike as a jig to make a pipe for you. I need him to do an off-bike job for me on the wifes S50 Cruiser ANYWAY , so I need to go to see him regardless ...
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #190 on: January 04, 2012, 09:05:09 am »
Now that would be a fine plan, must just measure to see if the header is the same , would certainly be interested in that angle as I'm looking at about 2.5-3k to fabricate a pipe up here!
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #191 on: January 04, 2012, 09:20:57 am »
Here's some cross-fertilizing maybe of interest to you guys , but from my newer DR , here's a Talbot pipe up close , my whole 08DR in Dorky Shopping Mode ( top box siesahh ! ), and  an IMS clear tank, painted Primer + Velvaglo Satin Black , black leaving a .... .....hahahaha.........Fuel Guage ! : )









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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #192 on: January 04, 2012, 09:26:59 am »
You should post your IMS painting set-up on Advrider and DRriders websites as the yanks and aussies cant make paint stick on the plastics  :biggrin:
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #193 on: January 04, 2012, 09:39:19 am »
WC ja I know there is interest in this, it's been discussed before. I tried (1) Rustoleum Plastic Paint : Fail (2) Rustoleum Plastic Primer + Aerolac Satin Black : Fail after about 1 year , and now (3) This one, ie, Rustoleum Plastic Primer , cured for 2 weeks first, then Velvaglo on top, also cured for two weeks with no gas in tank.

This latest version the Jury is still out on. Too early to celebrate. However, the theory goes this time that I EXPECT the primer to soften in the fuel vapours that transit through the polyethylene ! But letting it really, really, really DRY first,  removes all traces of retained solvent that might have been responsible for blistering in the past. (Clue: It failed mainly where the sun cooked it )

My Velvaglo test plate showed very robust petrol-run resistance , so now I hope that although the fuel might soften the primer, it basically plasticizers the polymers and keeps the Velvaglo in adhesion.

It's too early to publish, I'll invite a ton of shit on my head if I do ! But so far so good , I remain cautiously optimistic. An Acerbis tank for the old DR would look really cool pimped out painted,  if we can find a system that works, and works well !

Velvaglo is PU , self-crosslinking , it should hold against hydrocarbons for a while, and I don't mind refreshing the job if I have to.

Just not too often !
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #194 on: January 04, 2012, 09:44:17 am »
I'm going the reverse route, paint or obtain plastics to match the tank, I kinda like a white bike.
That pipe on the new DR looks very lekker, how does it sound? (profile is exactly what I was after)
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #195 on: January 04, 2012, 09:55:32 am »
Tank First is wayyyyyy smarter logic eh WC , ja, I bow to your Logic .  :laughing4:

To be honest when I got this pipe back from Geoff I was dissappointed, it had a squeak on decel , I think he used perforated pipe with holes that were too small.

So being the irreverand fukwit I am, I welded a drill bit to a long rod and sommer drilled the baffle right out of the end, then welded a file to the same rod, filed it smooth.

So now I have a freeflow canister.

It's not too loud , no more squeak, and has a nice bark under load.

But I had it in mind to have stern words with Geoff to use a perf pipe with beeeeeeg holes in it for future work.

Nice thing about the guy is he says if you are not happy bring it back.

That doesn't help you much I know. I must say I dig the Scorch that came with my Old DR better.

But Geoff's pipe does look minimalist and neat. Normally he places the end trumpet horizontally but I asked for it in line.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #196 on: January 04, 2012, 10:01:28 am »
I dont know if you picked up on my pipes the PO welded a pipe the re-directed gasses away from the number plate on the end of the can, musta had a flame up at some time.

Certainly will contact Geoff, will do measurements etc on pipe later today, but first going to go see a guy about plating my spokes , my rims still perfect.
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #197 on: January 04, 2012, 10:49:49 am »
The best SABS Aesthetic Anomally Plate is one that's on FIRE !!!

SANS1116 is the kakkest dumb standard in the whole world. Like the wee California plate, that doesn't murder a bikes look.

I actually SPOKE to SABS once, regarding the SANS1116 , they were quite civil. I never had the motivation to take it further.

Instead I make my OWN plates , but that's illegal, they are 70% the size of SABS and I've got away with it a few times  :pot:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #198 on: January 04, 2012, 11:42:28 am »
Right, spoke to these guys, I must unlace rim, take spokes for re-plating myself, they will re-lace at 550 a rim  ???
How does that sound?
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #199 on: January 04, 2012, 12:07:23 pm »
Okay, maybe I should look at a pooratech option on the spokes, 2k quote for strip re-plate re-lace and true for both rims!