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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #320 on: January 17, 2012, 06:49:48 am »
NMaybe I'll look into Kings rear, front though?
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #321 on: January 17, 2012, 07:02:53 am »
beedeebeedeebeedeebeedee .....no data.......only know Sirac's and Deathwings for the front , Metzler or Deathwings on a KTM640 and Scorpions, TKC's on KTM950

For thumpers I have no experience other than those two. I kinda like the deathwings 'cause they STICK on tar, and brake in the wet.

I can live with a slippy back end, but not a slippy front end.

I once went hot into a dry blind corner on a TKC front, on Du Toits Kloof pass, at midpoint the road was wet , the front end washed away, long long Afrikaans words came from inside my helmet, and I somehow survived. After that scare I lost all faith in hard knobbies up front, and the advantage on the dirt is minimal to my view anyhow.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #322 on: January 17, 2012, 07:50:33 am »
780 is not bad for a rear, front is also a bit of a dilema for me, I want a puncture resistant tire, grip would be nice on tar 2, guess there is no perfect solution, you have one you lose the other......

Anyone using heavy duty tubes, rim locks etc?
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #323 on: January 17, 2012, 07:54:18 am »
I am using D606s with heavy duty tubes. In my experience that is pretty much puncture proof.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #324 on: January 17, 2012, 08:04:59 am »
Mmmmm ja forgot about the Dunlops, what's the pricing like?
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #325 on: January 17, 2012, 08:17:55 am »
Mmmmm ja forgot about the Dunlops, what's the pricing like?

Runner usually has stock so PM him. The other thing about D606s is they look the freaking BIZNESS. Also excellent offroad, and passable on road.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #326 on: January 17, 2012, 08:25:59 am »
I found Bridgestone TW41 / TW42 and Kings KT966 to be the best allrounders & value for money packages on the market for up to 600cc class bikes.

The B. has an edge in the wet (a small one) the K. on dirt especially in Cape winter mud. Both last well and work well and don't cost a fortune.
Everything else I tried (TKC, Sirac, E07, Kenda 270 & 761, Michelin Anakee, Metzeler Tourance & var. Enduro marks, Avon... ) was either scary, expensive, useless in some conditions... About as million combined bike hire fleet kms.

This is if you look for a SAFE ALLROUND tyre. There is no tyre perfect in all conditions. The more dirt bias the faster they will wear or the scarier they will be on tar and vice versa.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #327 on: January 17, 2012, 08:26:49 am »
Certainly will look into them once my spoke story is sorted....Thanks for that
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #328 on: January 17, 2012, 08:35:12 am »
Thx LeCap, so what about Kings rear and trailwing up front? I had more road orientated tyres on my XL500 and last year doing around a 100km/h I had some interesting experiences...not again, I need grip on gravel/dirt

But...also need tar compliance.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #329 on: January 17, 2012, 09:28:50 am »
My TW front says  "41 " , the new King says buggerall on it. How would I know it's a KT 966 ??? ( just being pedantic )

Ja thanks le Cap , am eternally grateful every time you share massively experienced data with us.

I need a front brake disc , am seeing USD 240 - USD260 online shopping , I guess it's time to call Suzuki South and find out their price.

Is that guy who makes disks in CT via Craigs worth the "risk" of a non OEM disk. Disk Risk ? : )

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #330 on: January 17, 2012, 02:16:26 pm »
Hey Veemax, sjo I paid R1400 for a rear disk for the GS - motorworks, UK. I've heard of guys having made up discs at engineering shops for cheaper.

What about the Dunlop D606 for rear? Seems it's cheaper than the kings! Looks like a proper knobbly. I need something that'll give me stability on gravel.  R570(rear), R480(front) - if you fit it yourself... that's much cheaper than the kings!!

Think I'm doing that..front as well. I'm not looking for massive traction on tar with my DR, well so on gravel. These prices at Justbiketyre in centurion!! I mean, you can't beat that price and AFAIK, these are good tyres, right?

LeCap, did you try the D606's? what mileage is possible on these?
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #331 on: January 17, 2012, 05:16:19 pm »
D606s are very good on dirt. Too much tar and it chews them quite quickly, especially at speed. Keep the pressure hard on the tar and it is not so bad. I get 5000km from a rear and 10000 form a front. For my type of usage, the poorer performance on tar is made up by the excellent dirt performance. And yet they look like a propper knobbly!
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #332 on: January 17, 2012, 05:26:17 pm »
Finally got my tank fitted , geez what a mission..... Certainly not a fits all pre-96 Dr's set up
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #333 on: January 17, 2012, 05:36:43 pm »
...but SO WORTH IT !!!!
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #334 on: January 17, 2012, 07:16:31 pm »
Indeed, from close to throwing a match  :blob8: :blob8: to a cold beer and satisfaction that the thing the whole bike was based on, finally fits, shew..... :biggrin:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #335 on: January 18, 2012, 08:38:35 am »
Here is my aesthetic anomally DR with rims and spokes put firmly into corrosion history, and sporting fresh King meatball at the back.

It really needs a Karoo backdrop to bring out it's desert character , but as it's about 40 deg there today, um, it'll wait !

Weird colour scheme aside, this bike rides like NEW now. Have only the front disk rotor to renew otherwise there is nothing left needing attention. I'll  do the disk when the pads are shot , could be a while.





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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #336 on: January 18, 2012, 08:48:19 am »
My TW front says  "41 " , the new King says buggerall on it. How would I know it's a KT 966 ??? ( just being pedantic )

Ja thanks le Cap , am eternally grateful every time you share massively experienced data with us.

I need a front brake disc , am seeing USD 240 - USD260 online shopping , I guess it's time to call Suzuki South and find out their price.

Is that guy who makes disks in CT via Craigs worth the "risk" of a non OEM disk. Disk Risk ? : )



The KT966 tyre thread pattern is printed onto my T-shirts where it says "Suzuki".

I'd buy a disk from a reputable manufacturer. I had disks made locally (Fidel) in the past, the ones I got were fine but they sometimes had problems with the steel & heat treatment.

Procycle has generic disks for teh SE for US$ 110. Sure you can find something for the old DR too?
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #337 on: January 18, 2012, 09:07:25 am »
You confirm my deep skeptisim regarding materials of dodgy disks .... thanks !
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #338 on: January 18, 2012, 12:07:11 pm »
Thx DB9  - LeCap, have you tested D606's before? 5000km for rear is acceptable to me. How much would you get on the Kings?
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #339 on: January 18, 2012, 01:03:12 pm »
Just a thought ....look at the APPLIED tyre cost expressed as ZAR/km.........goedkoop is often duurkoop ! This is why I'm taking Le Caps' advice.
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