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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #340 on: January 18, 2012, 02:02:53 pm »
Just a thought ....look at the APPLIED tyre cost expressed as ZAR/km.........goedkoop is often duurkoop ! This is why I'm taking Le Caps' advice.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #341 on: January 18, 2012, 02:06:00 pm »


D606  :mwink:

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #342 on: January 18, 2012, 03:02:12 pm »
That does look the businez!  :thumleft:

Well I have the BST on the work bench, I'm delving into new territory wish me luck!

The Kit I have suggests 155-160 main jet, their needle, clip 4th groove from the top for a more free flowing pipe.
Im wondering should I just do that and fine tune from there?
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #343 on: January 18, 2012, 03:17:45 pm »
Definitely start point should be their recommendation , er on lean side for altitude ....
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #344 on: January 18, 2012, 03:27:07 pm »
Never underestimate the power of Chaos. I had to abandon my DR under a tree this morning, and take a long walk in 35 Deg heat.

Sudden Battery Death Syndrome. It still measures 12.65 Volts, but I walked out the shop and it said Clack Clack , Goodnight Nurse.

A Fresh battery ( http://www.motobatt.com/ ) , and it's alive again. WHERE'S MY KICKSTART ?????

DB9 , gimmee your Dakar !!!

Very glad it died close to home. Note to self: When rebuilding a used Adventure bike with e-Start only, buy a new battery so you KNOW what you have on board !
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #345 on: January 18, 2012, 03:37:06 pm »
I love my kickstart! Its nice the when you switch on the bike and the battery is dead, it makes no difference, you just kick it into life and off your go....... :ricky:

Is it not possible to retrofit a kick start?

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #346 on: January 18, 2012, 03:39:10 pm »
I doubt it, maybe, but the parts bill would kill the idea ! IF you could find them !

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #347 on: January 18, 2012, 03:40:35 pm »
You have the hole in the crank case:

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #348 on: January 18, 2012, 03:44:47 pm »
Ja, tantalising isn't it ! I should do the exercise and see if I could not order the parts in theory. Not really in the mood to tear down my nice new motor. I didn't even bother to try to bump start it,  the compression right now is at a peak.

the ONE weakness of this bike pops up in it's first few weeks back to life !!!

I say that is LUCKY !

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #349 on: January 18, 2012, 04:04:14 pm »
Jumpstart in 2nd normally works, ask some oke to give you a push
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #350 on: January 18, 2012, 04:33:17 pm »
Jumpstart with a piece of wire on automatic de-comp lever LOL
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #351 on: January 18, 2012, 04:58:59 pm »
Right..... started stripping my carb, noticed the slide is grooved, do I have problems here?
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #352 on: January 18, 2012, 05:02:00 pm »
The needle as it was when I removed it, should the part marked with the red arrow not be where the yellow arrow is?
Clip 3rd groove from top, the spacer that is advised to be removed is chipped, Moose racing needle (bottom)
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #353 on: January 18, 2012, 05:56:05 pm »
Thats not a chip, look again, it seats into a corresponding impression inside the slide ! If you rotate it you will feel it slot into place.

Anyway, it's history .... they say leave it out ! ??

Ok, lets go to the slide.

Take off the main jet and remove the nozzle out through the top of the carb, then pull the whole slide guide out and look for the O-ring under neath.

Get the slide and slide guide together , really look at it for wear, at the bottom edges ....

Lets see how that looks, you have to build from there.

If it's really hammered, your new fancy dynojet needle is going to be worn and useless in the next 8000km ....

This is where you have to face facts.

Lets first ID your carb, outside on the left should be a number. Mine said 12EF // 411 , yours will be more modern I think, as already your needle has slots, mine didn't .

Whats the number on the needle that came out ? 6F10 or later ?

Get the nozzle out ! 691- y2 or later ?

Take your time, open a beer. ZENNNNNN !!!!!!!! This is the part you DO NOT rush !

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #354 on: January 18, 2012, 06:00:14 pm »
Wait!!!! It get's better, no needle valve in carb?????
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #355 on: January 18, 2012, 06:02:55 pm »
18DS K341
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #356 on: January 18, 2012, 06:03:55 pm »
Needle, H9
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #357 on: January 18, 2012, 06:04:00 pm »
And while you are disassembling, let's get those minor jets out. Pilot air, is it 1.3 ?? Pilot jet, is it 52.5 ? The throttle butterfly, is it 110 ?

Is the idle screw plugged or accessible ?

If plugged, we're gonna UN plug it, give you back Control !!! Look for a wee brass insert with a really tiny hole dead centre ...if you see the idle adjustment needle instead you see a screwdriver slot...if so, measure the turns to a light seating IN, note that down, then unscrew it and get in on the bench. Look at the O-ring ! Is it OK ?

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #358 on: January 18, 2012, 06:11:40 pm »
Jumpstart with a piece of wire on automatic de-comp lever LOL

Oops..mean running start
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #359 on: January 18, 2012, 06:19:55 pm »
Run and Jump Start hahahahahhaa !
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