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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #220 on: January 06, 2012, 06:46:06 am »
I read that they cannot be split.  I think the pumper is only in one carb also.  This is according to what I read on internet when also considering this 2years ago.
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #221 on: January 06, 2012, 06:52:50 am »
Eish! back to the drawing board on that one then......
Superdave, what suspension mods are you doing?

 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #222 on: January 06, 2012, 07:02:42 am »
Generally 2 carbs on a fitting joining them together. Possible problem is that the throttle control etc has either a left or right orientation. So probably need mods to work properly.

Might be idea to search advrider or thumpertalk to see if there is a thread on it.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #223 on: January 06, 2012, 07:22:44 am »
Any suggestions on removing decals from plastics prior to spraying?
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #224 on: January 06, 2012, 10:19:33 am »
Any suggestions on removing decals from plastics prior to spraying?

Don't spray the (flexible PP plastics) to begin with unless it's a "Verkaufslackierung" ::)

It will come off eventually and unfortunately and then it will look really shite :-\

Best way to get old stickers off is start with carefully lifting one corner with a Stanley knife blade. You can often pull the whole sticker off in one piece. Sometimes it's tedious and they keep tearing and you have to pull them off bit by bit. They leave a ghost image of not weathered plastic underneath the sticker..
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #225 on: January 06, 2012, 11:04:00 am »
Going to have to spray my sidecovers and tailpiece otherwise with white tank, headlight cowling and handguards it will look "Maximumshitkleuren!"
Will try the veemax method with velvaglow.

Next question..... standard DR ignition, what do the two black wires do?
All the smaller (compact) ignitions I have seen at shops here in JHB (Non OEM) have 4 wires?????
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #226 on: January 06, 2012, 11:49:44 am »
Eish! back to the drawing board on that one then......
Superdave, what suspension mods are you doing?



WC - I am rebuilding rear shock and converting it to nitrogen - you know how the Ohlins look with the cannister next to shock. I am changing the spring to higher rate - in my case I weigh around 90kg and luggage normally about 20kg so spring rate somewhere around 7,8mm/kg to 8mm/kg. Std spring rate is 6,5 kg/mm.

Front end - progressive springs - not sure of the rate off hand but also fitting nitrogen adapter. You know the goodie that goes on top off the cap that allows you pump nitrogen in if shock too soft and able to reduce if shock too hard. That is the end goal for the suspension.

Spoke to Shimwells here on East Rand and they seem to have lots of experience with this.

In fact my friend with XT660 had serious tank slapper at 140km/h and went to see them - they fitted the fitting to pump nitrogen as his seals were still good. Raised the pressure up front and he says the bike is like a new bike with better handling.

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Why don't I buy the tdm 40 direct from Procycle or the other German chap. Comlete with cables etc.

Then you can buy a cheapercarb off e bay and the rebuild kit from Pro cycles. We can have cables made up here as we will know the lengths and we can do mods to throttle and the vacuum as we will have a standard to work from. Don't know if that would be any cheaper in the long run though?

Also haven't seen Dyno Jet kit for this carb which I presume would be a good mod to have.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #227 on: January 06, 2012, 12:36:31 pm »
don't have a before and after,
but here is the graph from when i dyno'd my bike.
TM40 pumper.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=32071.840
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #228 on: January 06, 2012, 01:59:58 pm »
I think the pumper will cure all bogging and surging and give good responce , dunno if it can cure the cam induced flatness below 3 k rpm, has anyone done a pumper upgrade on a pre-96 DR?
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #229 on: January 07, 2012, 05:19:00 pm »
Going to have to spray my sidecovers and tailpiece otherwise with white tank, headlight cowling and handguards it will look "Maximumshitkleuren!"
Will try the veemax method with velvaglow.

Next question..... standard DR ignition, what do the two black wires do?
All the smaller (compact) ignitions I have seen at shops here in JHB (Non OEM) have 4 wires?????

Looks like the black wires are the MAIN juice lines , the other ones do the switching, here's a pic of the diagram from the DR manual , both USA/Canada and the "Other" look the same.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #230 on: January 07, 2012, 07:13:45 pm »
Damnnnnnn there goes an aftermarket ignition  :eek7:
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #231 on: January 07, 2012, 08:02:21 pm »
Mmm, must take some time to ring out the wiring diagram in my head ....question in my mind is.....what if you don't care about a parklight function? Can you then get away with a 4-pole switch. Something to work on .....but I'm partied out and off to put my feet up !  :bueller:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #232 on: January 07, 2012, 08:40:02 pm »
Absolutely no rush, sprayed my sidecovers and tailpiece today.
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #233 on: January 07, 2012, 08:43:49 pm »
Kan julle slim manne my se of die ou suzuki DR600 en di nuwer DR650 se ratkas en crank dieselfde gebly het ? My broer se 650 se 5de rat het ontplof en nou die hele engine in sy moer
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #234 on: January 08, 2012, 01:46:59 am »
Zetman ek glo die NUWE 96+  Enjin en Ratkas en eintlik die HELE bike is nie dieselfde nie, maar dit behoort dieselfde as die OU pre96 DR650 te wees!? Gaan kuier by Suzuki en vra vir hulle mooi om die microfiche's te check, dat die parte nommers dieselde is.

Kyk bietjie by Ron Ayers en AlfaSports se websites vir dieselfde. Ook CMS innie Nederland.

Ek glo nie jy gaan met 'n ou DR600 se ratkas vas sit nie ... daars nog hoop vir hom. Die ou 600 Rocks !
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #235 on: January 08, 2012, 09:25:11 am »
It never ceases to amaze me how local bike shops try to rip us off!!!!! Had a look at that Ron Ayers website Veemax, spokes for both wheels at $100-00 local guys quote 1000 bucks a wheel?????

So could prob land both sets of spokes for half the local dealers quote.  :dousing:
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #236 on: January 08, 2012, 11:04:08 am »
Ok thanx i will go and have a look ...what do you guy's think of Magnum's old 85 DR600 he want 12000  yay or nay?
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #237 on: January 08, 2012, 11:09:44 am »
Skuus nog vragie jul weet ni dalk van engine vir my broer se bike wat iewers rondle dis is 97 suzuki freewind ma die DR650 het dieselle engine dankie vir jul hulp
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #238 on: January 08, 2012, 01:34:30 pm »
Die ou 650 is die selvde as die freewind, nie die 650 na 1996 nie
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #239 on: January 09, 2012, 08:41:54 am »
Going to have to spray my sidecovers and tailpiece otherwise with white tank, headlight cowling and handguards it will look "Maximumshitkleuren!"
Will try the veemax method with velvaglow.

Next question..... standard DR ignition, what do the two black wires do?
All the smaller (compact) ignitions I have seen at shops here in JHB (Non OEM) have 4 wires?????

Looks like the black wires are the MAIN juice lines , the other ones do the switching, here's a pic of the diagram from the DR manual , both USA/Canada and the "Other" look the same.



Come on B/W and B/Y are always closed except with ignition on. Ain't that difficult to figure out ???

Hint: Try to figure out what happens when you connect B/W and B/Y. If you can't figure it out try it. You will not fry your bike, promised :D
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