Author Topic: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's) (Read 37193 times)

Veemax · « **Reply #380 on:** January 19, 2012, 09:27:27 am »

Let me ponder that, thanks, useful bracket pic , really shows what I need to make a decision.

Ask TOG for the carb ID on the left side of the body , lets see what it is !??

Wildcoast · « **Reply #381 on:** January 19, 2012, 09:31:29 am »

I'll have the carb tonight, will let you know, should bolt straight on, I have all the manifolds etc, and lots of spare BST parts

theotherguy · « **Reply #382 on:** January 19, 2012, 09:54:33 am »

Quote from: WILDCOAST on January 19, 2012, 09:31:29 am

I'll have the carb tonight...

quick service...
nothing like the WD forum.

Wildcoast · « **Reply #383 on:** January 19, 2012, 10:01:52 am »

That's no lie, beats fleabay hands down

volroom · « **Reply #384 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:47:43 pm »

So your getting new carb...wow. BST-40?

theotherguy · « **Reply #385 on:** January 19, 2012, 02:16:36 pm »

Quote from: volroom on January 19, 2012, 01:47:43 pm

So your getting new carb...wow. BST-40?

yup BST-40,
he's buying it from me.
i've got another BST-40 (had 2),
interested in it???

Veemax · « **Reply #386 on:** January 19, 2012, 02:40:24 pm »

Off Topic during Carb Week, but here goes!

My DR let me down twice in 24 hrs by refusing to swing. A co-ord fella can, in fact, bump start this DR, right first time this morning but on a downhill, lucky for me, I stopped on a hill to check, and it proved genius, it not wek !!! clack clack clack vokkol. Oops.

So I learned three things today.

(1) You can strip these lekker old school starter solenoids, clean it up, clean the contacts, grease up the plunger and put it back together . HELL YEAH. Try THAT on your sealed unit R1200GS Can Bus Uber Teknik huh !!!! 18 years later and good as new.

(2) Do not underestimate the importance a nice clean tight high-current connection to the starter, the root cause of the No-Go.

(3) No other mans work will come anywhere close to the detail, caring, and precision of your OWN. Trust No One.

Ok, Murphy, what ELSE have you in store for me, because I cannot for the life of me imagine anything else left on this bike besides the bowels of the gearbox, that I have not thoroughly attended to...

I think a rip around Cape Point ...er.....sorry Vaalies........

Wildcoast · « **Reply #387 on:** January 19, 2012, 02:45:50 pm »

I have been there , flat battery , run start with a piece of wire on de-comp, my de comp only works with clutch in I think, was locking wheel in 3rd

Will certainly look at my solenoids now that you mentioned it Veemax.

Well airbox prepped for new carb, brand new nicely oily filter inside sealed with grease

volroom · « **Reply #388 on:** January 19, 2012, 02:57:11 pm »

Quote from: theotherguy on January 19, 2012, 02:16:36 pm

Quote from: volroom on January 19, 2012, 01:47:43 pm
So your getting new carb...wow. BST-40?

yup BST-40,
he's buying it from me.
i've got another BST-40 (had 2),
interested in it???

maybe......I'll be opening mine up on Saturday with wildcoast...wonder if I should...

Wildcoast · « **Reply #389 on:** January 19, 2012, 03:10:38 pm »

Bring a big hammer

It's pretty basic stuff actually , mine was rusted vas inside and I was a bit heavy handed, if you have the same problem just dont moer it

volroom · « **Reply #390 on:** January 19, 2012, 04:59:42 pm »

gooi some pics there wild coast of this new carb and old - they are exactly the same?

Veemax · « **Reply #391 on:** January 19, 2012, 05:05:43 pm »

Sorry dudes. You know when you go for a ride, and you, and the bike and such .... all comes together , and you go YeeHah in your helmet ?

Well, for motivational purposes ( bullshit , it's a brag pic ) I took this for you about an hour ago ...

Wildcoast · « **Reply #392 on:** January 19, 2012, 05:09:30 pm »

Awesome!!!!!

Can't wait for my bike to start posing for pics.....

Will do Volroom, must get new carb first.

volroom · « **Reply #393 on:** January 19, 2012, 05:32:43 pm »

Quote from: Veemax on January 19, 2012, 05:05:43 pm

Sorry dudes. You know when you go for a ride, and you, and the bike and such .... all comes together , and you go YeeHah in your helmet ?

Well, for motivational purposes ( bullshit , it's a brag pic ) I took this for you about an hour ago ...

Nee man John....nee man...that does something to this cape heart of mine. Won't stay too long here in the vaal district..couple of years

Wildcoast · « **Reply #394 on:** January 19, 2012, 05:37:52 pm »

A view from the sea side.....

Wildcoast · « **Reply #395 on:** January 19, 2012, 08:33:55 pm »

okay, new carb says, 32E3 H891

Volroom , almost identical to old carb, a few subtle external differences , prettier though, will investigate innards tomorrow sans the influence of beer

volroom · « **Reply #396 on:** January 19, 2012, 09:43:49 pm »

Quote from: WILDCOAST on January 19, 2012, 08:33:55 pm

okay, new carb says, 32E3 H891

Volroom , almost identical to old carb, a few subtle external differences , prettier though, will investigate innards tomorrow sans the influence of beer

I'm sure between the 3 carb's we'd be able to make something of it

Veemax · « **Reply #397 on:** January 20, 2012, 09:09:26 am »

Quote from: WILDCOAST on January 19, 2012, 08:33:55 pm

okay, new carb says, 32E3 H891

Volroom , almost identical to old carb, a few subtle external differences , prettier though, will investigate innards tomorrow sans the influence of beer

OK, the modern DR manual says this carb 32E3 is for the Sweden/German/Australian DR650SE market

Data as follows

Main 140 , 6F19 needle on 3rd clip , Y5 , throttle valve # 95 , Pilot 42.5 , Starter Jet 40 , idle screw 1 turn out

You should see a single lift hole on the slide , unlike the old DR , Derek Capito of Motolab says this is a design change to reduce flutter and slide wear, unless you are building a stunt bike, my vote syas leave it.

On the throttle body the DR has a lever on the right that closes a microswitch at full wide open. This is intended to que the CDI to retard the ignition during neck-ringing of the new DR. I cut mine off and tossed the wire away because I am not a retard that holds a thumper at full revs all day.

Float height is the same with this carb, 14.7mm +/- 1mm.

This is about all I have to offer of possible assistance, good luck guys.

Wildcoast · « **Reply #398 on:** January 20, 2012, 09:12:17 am »

Morning all! Right , got my new carb from TOG last night, shew he has some lovely machines....
Stripped the carb, stock off a post 96 DR prob set up for this altitude from the dealer
It was running the same main jet as mine (140) diff idle jet and needle settings, both floats set at top clip, the innards of both carbs are identical, pic explains idle jet, needle settings etc, as can be seen my carb had o-rings missing, don't know if this is standard or lost by PO or his mechanic, maybe this explains my terrible fuel consumption.

So now it's clean and re-assemble with new parts, any suggestions on new settings , stock filter, no snorkle and aftermarket pipe?

Wildcoast · « **Reply #399 on:** January 20, 2012, 09:16:06 am »

Good timing, thanks Veemax, the slide has been drilled already I'm afraid....
Now with two springs I can cut one and see what happens