Author Topic: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's) (Read 36518 times)

Wildcoast · « **Reply #620 on:** March 04, 2012, 11:11:55 am »

WELL!!!! my tank is fixed , went for my first ride this morning!

Pipe is LOUD!!!! the bike is a changed machine after the rebuild, throttle response much improved, still a bit pap under 3000 rpm but pulls smoothly after that.

still have no headlight but indicators and brake light works.
Have not really whacked it open yet in top , but she is going well, just a few tweeks on the mixture screw and it will be dialed in , clutch is smooth as butter, no slipping (soaked plates for a week and a half before installing)

Just brakes, wheel bearings, spokes, crash bars etc and suspension to do......

DeepBass9 · « **Reply #621 on:** March 05, 2012, 09:36:35 am »

Do you need crash bars on a DR? The only thing that is really vulnerable is the oil cooler.

Veemax · « **Reply #622 on:** March 05, 2012, 10:55:07 am »

Wow, what a weekend. Annoying brag pic for you guys with DR's still in the workshop

Here are my DR's Old and New doing service in a manner for which they are intended, my Old DR entrusted for the weekend to my mate Dave , who needed some bush and bike therapy.

Missed your call Volroom , due to being er ... kinda off grid.

volroom · « **Reply #623 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:01:09 pm »

Were getting there WC! Less than two weeks from today for me. While I'm changing the tyres (put in some heavy duty RUBBER tubes (Heidi's) I checked the front fork springs free length. It was a bit mushy so was expecting thw worse-spending even more money on progressive springs. But..free length for both about 484mm while service limit is 462mm I think..put in some ATF-measured oil level like you suggested Veemax

volroom · « **Reply #624 on:** March 05, 2012, 01:38:45 pm »

Quote from: DeepBass9 on March 05, 2012, 09:36:35 am

Do you need crash bars on a DR? The only thing that is really vulnerable is the oil cooler.

I see on your profile pic that you've got crashbars on your DR DB9. I also want some, that magneto cover meets stone might leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere...no quick fix

I'm thinking as simple as possible - function over form. Some ideas?

Wildcoast · « **Reply #625 on:** March 05, 2012, 03:46:09 pm »

My cooler is now comfortably enfolded by the Acerbis tank, I want a heavy duty bash plate as my sump is vulnerable (I have a tin foily roady version) certainly want more crash protection for the motor , as brake lever, gear lever and casings are still vulnerable to a sharp rock, nothing to elaborate, something like the pic I posted earlier on the thread.

Lekker pic Veemax, Im envious , watch this space........

Veemax · « **Reply #626 on:** March 05, 2012, 04:25:36 pm »

My cooler protector is MIA !

So I have a dik stuk square tube crudely welded to the frame , to take the punch in the event of a tip oppie klip !

My mate Dave dropped my DR in the sand , on the left.

The Sand got Velvaglo'ed .

( In the same way as when Chuck Norris swims ... Chuck Norris doesn't get wet. The water gets Chuck Norris )

Wildcoast · « **Reply #627 on:** March 05, 2012, 04:58:13 pm »

Veemax · « **Reply #628 on:** March 05, 2012, 06:18:26 pm »

My DR krap die bosse , die bosse krap nie my DR nie

volroom · « **Reply #629 on:** March 06, 2012, 08:32:57 am »

Quote from: WILDCOAST on March 05, 2012, 03:46:09 pm

My cooler is now comfortably enfolded by the Acerbis tank, I want a heavy duty bash plate as my sump is vulnerable (I have a tin foily roady version) certainly want more crash protection for the motor , as brake lever, gear lever and casings are still vulnerable to a sharp rock, nothing to elaborate, something like the pic I posted earlier on the thread.

Lekker pic Veemax, Im envious , watch this space........

Sorry, I'm lazy - what page on this thread is the pic of the crashbars?

Wildcoast · « **Reply #630 on:** March 06, 2012, 09:16:46 am »

Here.....

volroom · « **Reply #631 on:** March 06, 2012, 09:58:00 am »

thx...looks good. Problem of course is a pipe bender which I take it we don't have.
If we have this made up it'll cost a pretty penny..So what is plan of action?

Wildcoast · « **Reply #632 on:** March 06, 2012, 10:32:17 am »

Alternate plan, take bike to Groenie after you Dyno it.....
He makes up bars

volroom · « **Reply #633 on:** March 06, 2012, 10:52:16 am »

Quote from: WILDCOAST on March 06, 2012, 10:32:17 am

Alternate plan, take bike to Groenie after you Dyno it.....
He makes up bars

aha! I like. Will try and find out EPOC (estimated price of crashbards)

do you know what you want to do with regards to the proper bashplate? LeCap supplies if I'm correct - price? Paying for crashbars makes me less want to pay for bashplate.

Welsh had a 6mm aluminium bash plate made up for his pig (R1150GS) at his work...helps if your in the engineering industry. Might try and make a plan

volroom · « **Reply #634 on:** March 06, 2012, 10:59:50 am »

WC, you gonna check your spring fee length before you decide to get progressive springs? They might be OK still...

Veemax, what is the free length of your new progressive springs?

volroom · « **Reply #635 on:** March 06, 2012, 11:09:16 am »

Quote from: WILDCOAST on March 06, 2012, 10:32:17 am

Alternate plan, take bike to Groenie after you Dyno it.....
He makes up bars

Roughly R1000 says Groenie. He says that pipe should be bit thicker than that in picture to take the punch.
Keen?

Veemax · « **Reply #636 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:08:18 pm »

Quote from: volroom on March 06, 2012, 10:59:50 am

Veemax, what is the free length of your new progressive springs?

Ummmm, er.... don't know , but I ended up with the spacer's cut to 71mm before I was happy with the preload. There are no apples to compare with apples here , if you get my logic.

After having actually USED the bike on about 300km of gravel and technical offroad now, I can say it is a distinctive improved feel to the front end now , so maybe it's not KTM640Adv-like , but competent enough offroad to make me not care , and hey....no leaky USD seals and all that maintenance horseshit .... real BOOTS to keep Africa OUT of the working parts yes !

The Suzook may be a budget oldtimer but by riding it like you stole it , one gets huge satisfaction.

In the combination of rider + bike , I doubt if this venerable DR is the limiting factor for 90% of weekend adventurers out there.

I would not replace in-spec OEM springs with Progressive springs , just ride the thing, it works. I only chose Progressive coils because for whatever reason, my DR's factory units were really very, very moeg !

volroom · « **Reply #637 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:17:40 pm »

Quote from: Veemax on March 06, 2012, 12:08:18 pm

Quote from: volroom on March 06, 2012, 10:59:50 am

Veemax, what is the free length of your new progressive springs?

Ummmm, er.... don't know , but I ended up with the spacer's cut to 71mm before I was happy with the preload. There are no apples to compare with apples here , if you get my logic.

After having actually USED the bike on about 300km of gravel and technical offroad now, I can say it is a distinctive improved feel to the front end now , so maybe it's not KTM640Adv-like , but competent enough offroad to make me not care , and hey....no leaky USD seals and all that maintenance horseshit .... real BOOTS to keep Africa OUT of the working parts yes !

The Suzook may be a budget oldtimer but by riding it like you stole it , one gets huge satisfaction.

In the combination of rider + bike , I doubt if this venerable DR is the limiting factor for 90% of weekend adventurers out there.

I would not replace in-spec OEM springs with Progressive springs , just ride the thing, it works. I only chose Progressive coils because for whatever reason, my DR's factory units were really very, very moeg !

Lekka. Yes, understand. Would you add some air to those forks to add some oemf?? 250kPa - 2.5 Bar (i think with hand pump...)
I know the okes say you don't have to - but...the engineers thought of this when they designed the bike..

Wildcoast · « **Reply #638 on:** March 06, 2012, 05:14:51 pm »

Volroom, at the moment I'll stick it out and not ride anything 2 hardcore, I will be doing bars, serious bash plate and Wilburs on my front end (seals and oil 2) Before I go to Nam.
My build up to phase one is now complete, phase 2 is protection, shocks and wheel bearings, Phase 3 is a screen,lower gearing , new tires (rim locks etc) and Maaaaaaybe a little engine tweak

My motors running a bit rich, mixture screw 2 turns out, shall I flip a coin between turning screw in or bigger holes in the airbox?

Veemax · « **Reply #639 on:** March 06, 2012, 06:26:43 pm »

My airbox and hole saw are also in imminent danger of meeting one another ! When you see what the new DR does with breathing, it adds to the impetus to get in there and boogie ....

I did say I'd have ONE standard bike in my stable though .... mmmmm....... stuff that huh !