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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #920 on: September 13, 2012, 03:05:37 pm »
Off to get assembled cylinder head from engineer and hopefully run the old girl tomorrow sometime.

Sooooooo Excited.

But my wife - eeeiisshh she not a happy lady at the moment. :laughing4:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #921 on: September 17, 2012, 04:26:09 pm »
So bike started without pipe - what a sound.

Then we connected pipe which needs proper fitting and what a sweet sounding Titanium GSXR 1000 pipe. Need to possibly reroute the pipe but it has already been ceramic coated and presents a problem as whole header will nedd recoating. School fees again.

Haven't ridden bike but compression is very strong and throttle response is amazing.

But...........

Seems to be running rich which ot did not do before everything was coated. Looks like we can go quite a bit leaner but will leave upto the dyno test to get right.

Very excited and just want to ride it now - but unfortunately work takes precedence.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #922 on: September 17, 2012, 10:37:28 pm »
Lekker news SD !!! So all the bits are there ...now is the time to FORCE yourself to take your time and do things once, right.

My DR showed me a flat tyre yesterday. The thing had a puckered rear tube. Frikkin TracMac amateurs !!!!

All fixed , but new bars vibrate in strange ways ! Don't care , it goes like SNOT !

Keep us posted huh , and take some PICS !!!!!

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #923 on: September 18, 2012, 10:09:37 am »
Slight issue locating exhaust correctly and my clever exhaust fitter decided the header was meant to go outside of frame so cut the bend out of my newly ceramic coated pipe.

Ay tog!

So now we need to get a piece of stainless with correct bend to tuck the exhaust in a bit. Will post a pic.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #924 on: September 18, 2012, 08:17:51 pm »
Took some pics of where I am at with bike at the moment,

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #925 on: September 18, 2012, 08:44:54 pm »
 :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Love the Gixxer pipe , who woulda thought ??? 10/10 for originality !!!

So..... Vroooom ????
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #926 on: September 18, 2012, 09:59:44 pm »
Fitted beautifully before we stripped motor but after cutting the bend out we need to mod to get it tucked in a bit. >:(

Sounds quite nice the pipe does, :lol8:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #927 on: September 20, 2012, 08:36:47 pm »
Took for a ride - accelerates clean from around 2 000rpm and pulls strong. It revs over the redline too easily and needs to be watched. I think after a dyno its gping to be even sweeter with more pull,

Pulls so nively especially in mid range.

So sort exhaust out and off to dyno.

Then a new pooratech tool tube and shock rebuild and we good to go.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #928 on: September 21, 2012, 10:21:29 am »
Saw this on the www - looks interesting

Trail Tech Voyager Stealth Computer Kit- Suzuki DR650 Models (All Years)

http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/trail-tech-voyager-stealth-computer-kit-suzuki-dr650-models-all-years/part/TRAILT-912-302
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #929 on: September 22, 2012, 09:05:36 am »
Hey Rob good to see you getting active you ready for a ride yet ;)
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #930 on: September 22, 2012, 10:04:00 am »
Hey Rob good to see you getting active you ready for a ride yet ;)

almost....... :biggrin:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #931 on: October 12, 2012, 02:32:13 pm »
Hey Guys !!!

In the spirit of Continuous Improvement I ordered ( among other bike parts ) from CMS Netherlands  , a 1.4 Pilot Air Jet to replace the 1.3 ...

I also put in 10% beefier HD clutch springs, as despite a brand new clutch, the farker would slip under duress ( high speed , full bore, very big tar bumps )

[btw NEVER try to reuse the clutch cover gasket , I'm dumb and don't listen to myself sometimes, there is a high pressure oil feed under the top edge of the clutch cover that requires proper seal.]

Anyway, I highly highly recommend the 1.4 Pilot Air Jet , even down here at the coast where things are leaner , it improves the bottom end off-idle manner of the bike by a fat margin , I can only imagine what a high altitude and worn carb running a stock 1.3 or early model 1.2 must do ! Yuk !!!

I now no longer dread being stuck in slow traffic as the bike is much more tractable off-idle at small throttle openings.

For those who don't understand pilot systems , the larger air jet lets in more air to the pilot circuit, creating more foam/emulsion around the fuel in transit to the venturi and 'brakes' the fuel flow more.

whooo hooo , I like my bike getting BETTER with time.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #932 on: October 12, 2012, 02:39:38 pm »
Hey Guys !!!

In the spirit of Continuous Improvement I ordered ( among other bike parts ) from CMS Netherlands  , a 1.4 Pilot Air Jet to replace the 1.3 ...

I also put in 10% beefier HD clutch springs, as despite a brand new clutch, the farker would slip under duress ( high speed , full bore, very big tar bumps )

[btw NEVER try to reuse the clutch cover gasket , I'm dumb and don't listen to myself sometimes, there is a high pressure oil feed under the top edge of the clutch cover that requires proper seal.]

Anyway, I highly highly recommend the 1.4 Pilot Air Jet , even down here at the coast where things are leaner , it improves the bottom end off-idle manner of the bike by a fat margin , I can only imagine what a high altitude and worn carb running a stock 1.3 or early model 1.2 must do ! Yuk !!!

I now no longer dread being stuck in slow traffic as the bike is much more tractable off-idle at small throttle openings.

For those who don't understand pilot systems , the larger air jet lets in more air to the pilot circuit, creating more foam/emulsion around the fuel in transit to the venturi and 'brakes' the fuel flow more.

whooo hooo , I like my bike getting BETTER with time.

 :ricky:



So why didn't you order a few extra? :peepwall:

do you think it will really make a huge difference up here? If so how much and where do I order please? :ricky:

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #933 on: October 12, 2012, 07:24:29 pm »
The pilot air jet is a tiny tiny thing , don't have the invoice but it musta cost a Euro *gasp! *

cmsnl.com are great for oldie bike spares

Shipping costs a farken fortune , but it's the only solution I found to buy a loose / new armature for my wifes 1986 Savage, Instead of paying R6400 + for a whole starter motor , ( Suzuki SA ) , I sourced a new armature for Eur 148 , and brushes etc , the pilot air jet was a total afterthought.

In the end I paid R4500 instead of R6400 , but the wifes Savage is so far gone Custom , with new EVERYTHING , I could not be snookered by a toasted commutator.

It all goes to show, if you want a RELIABLE BIKE WITH LONG LIFE EXPECTANCY from an oldtimer , you are not gonna walk away until your input costs have reached R35000 to R45000 for a 650cc !

I am riding up through the Cedarberg tomorrow , on my Velvaglo DR .... rocking !!!!

I'll bore you another time how I nearly nearly destroyed the engine casings today ... HELICOILS ARE KAK KAK KAK KAK KAK things !!!!! Especially when some %@$&^$ hid one and it snags your M6 tap , and the tap breaks off and the whole sh^thouse goes up in flames !!!

What d##s stripped threads on this bike ??? Asshole !

Lucky I got it back from the forces of darkness , but not before tapping 7mm and finally 8mm to recover the blerrie thing ! Sjoe! Thats was CLOSE !!!
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #934 on: October 14, 2012, 08:43:53 am »
Howdy folks, been rather busy crossing oceans the last few months, not much bike time, off next week to cross pond again.

Some bike news, had valves re-seated and new stem seals fitted, while she is stripped will replace rings and then she will be up for sale.
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #935 on: October 14, 2012, 09:14:25 am »
I have a potential buyer for you , actually, two , down here in the Cape !

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #936 on: October 14, 2012, 09:18:18 am »
Tip Of The Day : Don't use Putoline 20W50 , even on a brand new clutch with HD springs , you will get clutch slip under extreme conditions.
( Highway flat out into hectic headwind )

I will go back to low-tech 15W40 HX5 or 10W40 Magnatec or something with a sub-hundred centistokes viscosity @ 100 Deg C

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #937 on: October 14, 2012, 09:27:38 am »
Thanks veemax I,ll be in touch once I am back from Tortola, I also had the slipping effect at high revs in top gear, replacing the clutch cured it  :lol8: Used belray thumper oil after replacement clutch and it seemed to work well.
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #938 on: October 14, 2012, 09:40:33 am »
I have one pal really wanting my old DR bad , he has an R1200GS Adv , we swapped bikes yesterday on the road home from the Cedarberg , I nearly fell asleep on the GS ..... zzzzzzzzzz *yawn* , too disconnected from real biking !

Anyway , Graham is wanting a small agile thumper and I've already sent him this link ! He's in no hurry so it could work out nice.

I've just checked my records , only the odd thin plate/thin disk is in fact new in my clutch ( it was a bastard like so many that fall into the hands of guys working with no manual ! ) , as the stack was all in spec , I used all the existing plates. I hope the Putoline has not 'poisoned' my plates with additives. Anyway , I'll change oil and field test again , it's coming up for a change anyway...

Otherwise , new friction plates all round, like you say.

You selling to buy, or selling due to low usage ?

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #939 on: October 14, 2012, 09:54:38 am »
I am selling to buy, not that the sale money is needed for the new purchase, still a bit undecided if I must sell the DR or have two bikes :ricky:

I have my eye on a Honda Transalp 700 found the DR a bit painful on my long hauls (vibration) it may have been the valve story but my throttle hand swelled up like I had hit a wall, could hardly ride.

I intend to do a Namibia epic next year so sacrifice off road capabilities for comfort and take it easy in the dirt with the Alp is my thinking.