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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #960 on: December 13, 2012, 08:58:57 am »
I changed the front wheel bearings (well Runner did). There was a problem since one of the bearings was an unobtainable size (16mm wide), so two 8mm bearings were used in its place

Old on the left, new on the right

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #961 on: December 15, 2012, 09:16:18 am »
DB9 you rolling ?

Guys , lets look way ahead to 2013 , whose bok for a gathering ?  :3some:

My DR is now with nothing left to do on it but riiiiiiiddddeeee !!!!

Wildcoast , you still with us ?

Dammit these bikes are awesome , once sorted for worn out parts , they beg for another lifetime of thrashing.

Any bright ideas for improving on the seat for the long haul ? I've 'shaped' mine , but it doesn't come close to the Sargent seat on my newer DR.

Oh, I have to brag, my carb is SO sorted now , that it can start on the choke , be left to idle like a fuel-injected bike while I put on my helmet and gloves , then transitions to an idle , all without touching the throttle.

That bitch carb taught me a life lesson in tenacity.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #962 on: December 17, 2012, 08:14:53 am »
Check this out over at the >96 DR thread ! I'll put it here to save you the trip :

From ADVrider:

Another milestone for the mighty DR. Clocked up 400,000 klm,s last week and the old girl is still going strong, not bad for an 05 model. She has had a few niggles along the way and quite a few new and used parts but hey i'm not complaining. The last rebuild at 360,000 was a biggie, it started jumping out of first gear so replaced all the driven gears, the barrel was worn out so a secondhand barrel and new piston and rings went on and splashed out on some original clutch plates and steel plates with new springs,i tried a EBC clutch kit but all it wanted to do is slip so was not impressed,originals lasted 170,000klm,s. Cam chain got replaced at 100,000 klm intervals and cylinder head and valves never touched apart from valve stem seals at about 300,000 klm,s It is a courier bike and gets ridden everyday in lovely Melbourne traffic rain hail or shine and thats in just one day Hot days cold days you name it,so it not an easy life but she still starts every time and still has the original starter motor. Fitted out with a few farkles like a IMS tank, pro tapper bars, staintune exhaust, b+b bashplate, had the suspension stiffed up with heavier springs and had to fit a tm40 because original carby decided not to play ball anymore. And it still has the original seat,it has been recovered because the stitching split but the foam is all stock, the only time it gets a bit painful is when it gets hot and you sweat or when the crutch gets wet from the rain. Best bike ever Suzuki
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #963 on: December 18, 2012, 08:41:04 am »
All that from a single cylinder motor bike. Only other bikes that regularly clock these miles are the Hondas!

Would like to see a KTM do these km's trouble free.  :pot: :peepwall:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #964 on: December 18, 2012, 08:50:16 am »
Ja, main bearings do 400 000 ?? Pah LEEEEEZE !!!!

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #965 on: December 18, 2012, 09:00:18 am »
Ja, main bearings do 400 000 ?? Pah LEEEEEZE !!!!

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Stir the pot my lad! :laughing4: :laughing4:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #966 on: December 18, 2012, 11:02:59 am »
Hey Veemax, what's the bests paint to use to paint your exhaust header pipe? Will rattle can heat resistant paint work? Or is there some specific paint you need to use? I have my header off to grind the weld out of the front end of it. Its quite a blob of metal in there, at least 2-3mm thick.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #967 on: December 18, 2012, 11:14:53 am »
sure its not stainless steel?
polish it up...
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #968 on: December 18, 2012, 11:43:08 am »
I think it is, When I have removed the ceramic coating (i.e compacted and baked mud), I'll sand and buff it should look cool. I've also got one of these header protector sleeves to put on, watch this space.. ;D
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #969 on: December 18, 2012, 12:05:35 pm »
What they said !

UHT doesn't work for long , it's better not to go down that road.

Did with the wifes mild steel headers on an XLX350R with UHT and regretted not copper/nickel/chroming the freakin thing , or better, Powercote.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #970 on: December 18, 2012, 06:22:06 pm »
Cleaned up the header pipe with a wire brush on the drill, then polished it with a buffing wheel. Came out quite well I think. Does look a but on the bling side though. Header pipe protector fitted as well. I took about 1mm off the weld inside the pipe and sanded it smooth. Might make a difference?

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #971 on: December 18, 2012, 06:33:38 pm »
The weld work often makes enough diffs to feel ! But make sure you don't have that devil of a carb full-open-timing-retard-switch or there'll be no point.

Suzuki employed some twatwaffle who put timing retard switches on a lot of bike for countries the ASSUMED to have poor quality gas , kills the top end. no doubt it's the same twatwaffle who invented what is infamously known as the Marauder Mystery Module , that stops cruisers of that name from cranking.

Both these devices you cut orf , and tradition has it, you fling in your neighbours yard to get eaten by his lawnmower. :lol8:

That pipe looks pretty cool , but you got to dirty it in line with the rest. Let us know if it doesn't rust !  :eek7:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #972 on: December 18, 2012, 06:45:16 pm »
Ja, I hope it is in fact stainless!

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #973 on: December 18, 2012, 06:50:41 pm »
Could be a minor issue if the Mayans were right  :bom: :bom:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #974 on: December 18, 2012, 06:54:29 pm »
Is there supposed to be a clamp between the header and the zorst? I don't have one? And are the only 2 attachment points on the head and 1 bolt on the rear? Seems a bit flimsy to me? (Although its been like that since I got the bike)

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #975 on: December 18, 2012, 10:35:30 pm »
Ditto, seems to work !
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #976 on: December 19, 2012, 09:18:12 am »
Ditto, seems to work !

I think I may put a clamp there, just to strengthen it a bit.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #977 on: December 23, 2012, 05:53:26 pm »
Yeah Veemax, still here, just in Puerto Rico at the moment, should be home by Christmas eve, DB9 I used a rattle can heat treatment on my header pipe, seemed to work okay, nice thing is it's cheap and easy to re-apply, just make sure "bokkie" is going to be out for a few hours when you bake the thing in the oven  >:D
 

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #978 on: January 08, 2013, 06:56:36 am »
Must share this !

I went for a nice ride yesterday with a pal aboard a range-tank kitted XR650 with impressive sounding Scorch pipe. This guy can riiiiiide , balance-wheelie master , and he carries corner speed on gravel most fear to follow. He is one of those nutcases that did the Amageza. Needless to say he is much younger than me too.  ::) , and I can say for sure that when you are over 50 , your balls shrink.

But all that aside , my bone stock 94 DR left that XR behind , in both acceleration and top speed , by a meaningful margin.

And he was getting 17 km per litre and I was getting 21 , despite some aggressive riding.

I put this down to my rebuilt, otherwise brand new carb , and that legendary Suzuki patented TSCC engine design.

His bike SOUNDS more powerful , but perhaps his Scorch's larger dia baffle is causing full bore 'reversion' ( standing wave causing trouble ) ????

Do not under estimate your ole DR , these robust oldtimers are maybe 1 bhp off the KTM640 , I say this having owned both.

When the DR comes on the cam from 5000 to 7000 rpm , it provides a window of oooomph that leaves other thumpers gasping like fish out of water.

I may curse the old DR snatch and cough below 3000 , but the compromise melts away when you're hangin' on the cable  >:D >:D >:D
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #979 on: January 08, 2013, 09:22:25 am »
Testify!

I finally got round to cleaning my bike (sort of). I fixed a hole melted in my side cover with some thin expanded metal, hopefully that will be strong enough. I also got an ATV tank bag for odds and ends. Nice that the petrol cap is accessible compared to most tank bags that cover it.
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