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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1000 on: August 20, 2013, 11:09:34 am »
Guys can you confirm whether this tail light lens from my DR750 is the same as a pre 95 DR650? If so, anyone have a spare they'd like to sell?

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Doesn't look like it. Try Suzuki for the parts, they got a 3rd gear and a rear light lens for my '91 DR so they may have one for your DR750?
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1001 on: August 20, 2013, 11:14:40 am »
Thanks. Suzuki dealership here is so useless you'd have more luck getting Suzuki parts from the Yamaha dealership.

Just saw the wheel bearings you changed. I had the exact same problem and solution so it seems the front hubs are at least the same!

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1002 on: November 07, 2013, 10:09:23 am »
Has anyone had problems with the balancer chain & tensioner mechanism on a DR600 / early DR650?
I'm working on a SN41 with indicated 60odd thousand MILES :o Starts fine (after I adjusted the automatic decompressor properly), runs fine but is a bit mechanically noisy and I think it might be the balancer chain making a racket?
I just can't remember if the tensioner must be serviced on a regular schedule and my DR600 service manual was borrowed out never to be seen again some time in the 1990's ::)

Here's a good link btw with pictures and schematics but it does not state if it's scheduled maintenance?
DR600 & DR650 (up to SP45) balancer chain tensioner
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1003 on: November 07, 2013, 10:28:58 am »
Somewhere on this thread is a link to download the service manual.

Here : http://www.dreamlodge.co.za/1990-1995_DR650_Service_Manual.pdf
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1004 on: November 07, 2013, 11:52:22 am »
That system looks identical to the one on the DR750 (SR41). On the 750 it should be adjusted every 12 000km just by loosening the bolts and letting the tension of the spring take up any slack. The mechanism itself needs no maintenance although I suppose it's not impossible that the chain could lose some tension over the years. I just feel the tension of the chain with my finger afterwards to make sure the tensioner has done it's job.

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1005 on: November 07, 2013, 12:08:25 pm »
In 92 the DR800 manual gives a slightly different procedure. The tensioner system is the same so this is possibly a better way to do it for the earlier models as well.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1006 on: November 13, 2013, 08:45:51 am »
It's definitely better to do the chain tension with some gentle help for the tensioner mechanism as shown in the updated procedure.
Thanks for posting.

The 600 is starting fine & first kick now (after adjusting the auto - decompressor). Not that it would not have other niggles ::)
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1007 on: November 13, 2013, 08:49:57 am »
I have a spare set of steering head bearings to fit both SN41 (DR600) and the very first DR650 (SP41) OEM upper bearing (the quirky angular contact axial ball bearing) and a generic lower tapered roller with shaft seal. R600. 2/3 of OEM price. Specially sourced, not available over the counter.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1008 on: November 19, 2013, 08:34:22 pm »
Hi guys, i need help please! My son has a  1986 DR 600 and today he broke the kickstarter. Every body tells me i will not get one but im shure there must be one somewhere. Who would be the best person to contact?  Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1009 on: November 19, 2013, 08:53:05 pm »
Hi guys, i need help please! My son has a  1986 DR 600 and today he broke the kickstarter. Every body tells me i will not get one but im shure there must be one somewhere. Who would be the best person to contact?  Any help would be appreciated.
Can't help you with the kickstarter. (Kickstarter or the shaft?) It's however important to determine why it broke? Decompression not properly working maybe? I know zip about these bikes. Sure lecap will advise soon. :thumleft:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1010 on: November 19, 2013, 09:06:58 pm »
Hi Chopperpilot, the shaft is ok but the splines on the kickstarter are almost worn away. I can see that the kickstarter has been welded before, i think the metal is old and fatigued.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1011 on: November 19, 2013, 09:11:43 pm »
Hi Chopperpilot, the shaft is ok but the splines on the kickstarter are almost worn away. I can see that the kickstarter has been welded before, i think the metal is old and fatigued. It broke at the botom where it slides over the shaft, you can say the part that clamps onto the shaft.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1012 on: November 19, 2013, 11:10:48 pm »
Hi Chopperpilot, the shaft is ok but the splines on the kickstarter are almost worn away. I can see that the kickstarter has been welded before, i think the metal is old and fatigued. It broke at the botom where it slides over the shaft, you can say the part that clamps onto the shaft.
Eish! Hopelik sal die ander Honde kan help! Wees net geduldig met jou soektog. Jy sal regkom! :thumleft:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1013 on: November 20, 2013, 09:21:44 am »
26300-14A03 Lever Assy, Kick Starter DR600 1986 (SG)
Available.

Will cost something around R1k

I replied to the other thread. These bikes start VERY easy and without any effort as long as the decompressor cables are adjusted correctly and as long as you follow procedure when kicking.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1014 on: November 20, 2013, 12:41:17 pm »
26300-14A03 Lever Assy, Kick Starter DR600 1986 (SG)
Available.

Will cost something around R1k

I replied to the other thread. These bikes start VERY easy and without any effort as long as the decompressor cables are adjusted correctly and as long as you follow procedure when kicking.
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1015 on: February 24, 2014, 06:27:56 am »
Keeping the thread alive as not been here in a long long time.  :bueller:

Here is a pic just to say my 94 DR just keeps on keeping on , the Toyota Hilux With No Aircon of motorcycles !!!

Recent hectic floods in the Anysberg area of the little Karoo meant destroyed roads and no access to my land there , so I took my oldtimer DR which got me through to inspect my bush camp there , which had survived.

When it hits the fan you want a low-tech workhorse that you can trust , the pre-96 DR is one helluva tough bike, and a restored one is a lifer , don't ever sell such a useful tool !



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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1016 on: February 24, 2014, 08:00:28 am »
HEY MR Vee where you been long time no see...

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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1017 on: February 24, 2014, 08:37:35 am »
Loop soos hin mielieboer se trekker ja !   Ride it like I stole it. Flipping boring, nothing ever needs fixing. Wait, that's a lie , I changed the tail light bulb last year.   :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1018 on: June 04, 2014, 12:08:32 pm »
So I'm also kicking my side stand out in this here parking lot. I recently bought a 1985 DR600 for the tidy sum of R13k. I drove from PE to Bellville to collect it so total purchase price is really R15k.
The speedo drive packed up at 78000km! and the previous owner probably added another 15k to 20k km's. The bike was in daily use, starts easily and everything except the hooter switch works.
The only mechanical repair I am doing at this stage is to replace the valve stem seals because the exhaust side ones weep heavily onto the stems. I pulled the head and barrel: valves and seats look very good, the rings are still within spec, but close to wear limit. Play on big end is 1.2mm of allowed 3mm.


Thus far I have replaced the steering head bearings, fork oil, repainted frame and triple clamps, cleaned and repacked swing arm and full floater bearings and replaced air filter. The end-can is badly rusted and has been repaired too often and the header pipes need a serious clean up.
The pic is how I got it, but in time it will look clean and new. Once it is clean and runs sweetly, I'll maintain and replace as required. The aim is to have a dependable and affordable adv bike/commuter.

Any other DR600 kickstart riders around?
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Re: Older DR 600/650 thread (Pre mid 90's)
« Reply #1019 on: June 04, 2014, 12:25:13 pm »
what n beauty die fred is ma still jong hier gan nie iets aan die bikes breek nie en almal  :ricky:
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