Author Topic: 690 Stalling (Read 1797 times)

Rolling Stone · « **on:** October 17, 2011, 11:13:39 am »

I find that my 690 stalls very easily at low revs.
Even while I am riding in slow technical stuff the bike tend to stall.
When you are parked and idling it will also just all of a sudden cut out.

I have tried different settings etc. same thing.
Can something be done to solve this problem.
It is moerse annoying.
starts easily each time even without having to put a foot down.

KTM Jagermeister · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:06:53 pm »

Mapping ...

Rolling Stone · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:25:43 pm »

Quote from: KTM Jagermeister on October 17, 2011, 12:06:53 pm

Mapping ...

Where do I take it.
I live in Randburg area

KTM Jagermeister · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:30:38 pm »

KTM dealer e.g. Centurion or Pro Action.

PS: Why don't we see more response on this web from KTM

100% client related!

777 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:42:54 pm »

Hi I had the same problem after doing a TPS reset idle for 15 seems to have sorted it out , check on the 690 thread under my Uni filter post it is explained their , good luck

Rolling Stone · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:44:48 pm »

Quote from: 777 on October 17, 2011, 12:42:54 pm

Hi I had the same problem after doing a TPS reset idle for 15 seems to have sorted it out , check on the 690 thread under my Uni filter post it is explained their , good luck

Thanks

Rough Rider · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2011, 01:37:03 pm »

Welcome to the kak world of the 690; I eventually sold mine because the problem could not be sorted out.

Bill the Bong · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2011, 10:08:46 pm »

I'm going to import a Vortex ECU from Aussie. It appears it resolves the problem completely. Only tiny little issue is that it will run towards R6k. I'm constantly amazed at the amount of money I've had to sink into this baby just to get it function acceptably.

However, I believe its worth the while, personally.

KTM Jagermeister · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2011, 07:56:04 am »

Quote from: 777 on October 17, 2011, 12:42:54 pm

Hi I had the same problem after doing a TPS reset idle for 15 seems to have sorted it out , check on the 690 thread under my Uni filter post it is explained their , good luck

Friend took his 690 to Centurion, standard practise when doing mapping they do TPS reset. Also they have new software ... had no problems during ride this weekend.

Rough Rider · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2011, 08:32:32 am »

Quote from: 777 on October 17, 2011, 12:42:54 pm

Hi I had the same problem after doing a TPS reset idle for 15 seems to have sorted it out , check on the 690 thread under my Uni filter post it is explained their , good luck

I did these resets more than I rode the bike. The weird thing is that you can do three or four rides with no hint of a problem and then suddenly it stalls 4 or 5 times on one ride.

KTM Jagermeister · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2011, 09:57:28 am »

Quote from: Rough Rider on October 18, 2011, 08:32:32 am

Quote from: 777 on October 17, 2011, 12:42:54 pm
Hi I had the same problem after doing a TPS reset idle for 15 seems to have sorted it out , check on the 690 thread under my Uni filter post it is explained their , good luck

I did these resets more than I rode the bike. The weird thing is that you can three or four rides with no hint of a problem and then suddenly it stalls 4 or 5 times on one ride.

Ok, then it is something else. Friend of mine had similar problem, check wiring, especially for bad connection to spark plug. Read about other 690 wiring issues.

bomber · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2012, 01:41:57 am »

As far as I have read this is how the FI was designed. To protect the motor and comply to emmissions

http://www.monomaniacs.nl/tnt/KTM-690/Stalling-and-throttle-issues

Jacobsroodt · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:28:19 am »

Have you tried fitting an Accelerator Module? European ECU regulations prescribes a lean mixture that causes an oversensitive throttle and the motor dying on low RPM acceleration (especially when an after market exhaust is fitted). The accelerator module tricks the CPU into thinking that it is 20 degrees C colder than ambient temperature, thus enriching the fuel/air mixture and solving many of the problems, and increases power.

Rolling Stone · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:40:10 pm »

RAD have mapping for when you change things like pipes and air filter.
my bike is much better after mapping was updated.

Rolling Stone · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:41:32 pm »

Quote from: Jacobsroodt on January 17, 2012, 11:28:19 am

Have you tried fitting an Accelerator Module? European ECU regulations prescribes a lean mixture that causes an oversensitive throttle and the motor dying on low RPM acceleration (especially when an after market exhaust is fitted). The accelerator module tricks the CPU into thinking that it is 20 degrees C colder than ambient temperature, thus enriching the fuel/air mixture and solving many of the problems, and increases power.

Problem that I have with this is the increase in fuel consumption.
Can not even get 200 hard kilomerters on a tank at this moment.

Jacobsroodt · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:03:20 pm »

The accelerator module retain cruising settings and only enriches the mixture under acceleration when power is needed. It will improve fuel consumption if you don't use the extra power all the time (which doesn't seem likely, given your last remark

)
It does convert your bike from an infrequently stalling one, to a bike with power when you need it. That can be the difference between falling over and staying upright, between wondering when the machine is going to die on you and trusting the motor for delivering power - worth the while in my opinion.

Rolling Stone · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2012, 06:08:46 am »

Quote from: Jacobsroodt on January 17, 2012, 02:03:20 pm

The accelerator module retain cruising settings and only enriches the mixture under acceleration when power is needed. It will improve fuel consumption if you don't use the extra power all the time (which doesn't seem likely, given your last remark )
It does convert your bike from an infrequently stalling one, to a bike with power when you need it. That can be the difference between falling over and staying upright, between wondering when the machine is going to die on you and trusting the motor for delivering power - worth the while in my opinion.

I suppose this is worth giving a shot.
Does it affect warranty?

edgy · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2012, 07:25:37 am »

My 690 was exactly the same from brand new......installed the accelerator module from Schlowy Customs and problem solved totally!

777 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2012, 07:28:47 am »

Guess i am lucky , i have had none of that , 2008 with 8000km

africanSky · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:13:02 am »

Mine has also been good from day 1.