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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2011, 09:28:34 pm »
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2011, 09:43:24 am »
Yep... tar roads are just large steps on gravel hiways :ricky:
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2011, 12:05:07 pm »
Went up Sani Pass last week, the tar is oosing in but will be a long time to get to the top.  But if you want to make the run you best do it this year. Was told by 4X4 tour guide at the top that it will be shut down next year to start blasting. 

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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2011, 12:56:37 pm »
It was mentioned that Lesotho needs access to Durban harbour. Now, unless they transport all their goods on bakkies, how much do they plan to alter the current pass to enable trucks to negotiate the hairpins? It seems that what they mean by blasting will really be demolishing quite a bit of the mountain.
 

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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2011, 04:36:19 pm »
Sani will be the new shortcut to Bloem... >:D
 

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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2011, 05:20:58 pm »
Tar Sani, and we just ride an R1 up there. There is a Yamaha for every application >:D
 

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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2011, 05:38:21 pm »
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2011, 10:54:50 pm »
I doubt they will tar it for the poor souls landlocked in Lesotho. IMO there is a huge dam due to be built near Mokgotlong. Tar road will give 24/7 access to the huge vehicles needed to build this dam. The conglomerates don't care about the poor souls. It is progress (money) that drives this.
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2011, 10:58:08 pm »
I doubt they will tar it for the poor souls landlocked in Lesotho. IMO there is a huge dam due to be built near Mokgotlong. Tar road will give 24/7 access to the huge vehicles needed to build this dam. The conglomerates don't care about the poor souls. It is progress (money) that drives this.

You are right about the dam.

A huge new dam is to be built, that is why all the roads in the Village Chief's Hut area are being upgraded. They need easy access for construction vehicles and materials.
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2011, 12:15:32 am »
It is the third dam in the project afaik. The plan is to link Maseru to Sani as well.
 

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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2011, 07:40:53 am »
I also went up Sani about 10 days ago and it is virtually in gravel highway condition! I must say I am skeptical about it being tarred even in the next 10 years (forget the Swiss...Chinese maybe yes) and even then no big trucks are going to negotiate it regularly, forget it. The big trucks will enter elsewhere and stay in the mountain kingdom - as said there are BIG road projects on the go in the Kao mine area and really VERY BIG Volvo trucks etc ... moving vast amounts of Lesotho around  :o
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2011, 09:37:02 am »
Mining is almost always bad news, but neccesary for our lifestyle. Dams could be equally bad news, intruding on the natural flow of water and migration of fish,etc.
 

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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2011, 10:12:08 am »
For them to construct a dam near Sani there will have to be tar road access nearby, but Sani in it's current style will not work, it is too severe for the type of trucks needed fror a project of this type, tarred or not. The road to Katse had to be built first, EVERY bit of material for the dam, barring certain sand, was trucked up there, (I helped modify a few truck/tractors for this contract, and worked on the lift in Kastse Dam wall) there is one corner/switchback on this section that interlinks have to do in two stages, one trailer at a time, the corner is just to sharp, close to the highest point, for those that have done this road. The corners on Sani are just to sharp, especially the last 5km for any truck/trailer combination to navigate, they would have to find an alternative route to the are, possibly from the Mokotlong side.
I'm sure Sani as it is safe for quite some time...
If the Chinese build it, they will carry on rebuilding it from bottom to top for ever, they build kak roads, ala Mozambique style, keep themselves in a job by building kak quality roads.......
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2011, 10:50:49 am »
The contract for upgrading the road from Mokgotlong to Sani is in the final throws of negotiation.  The plan is that Maseru to Sani via Thaba Tseka will be tarred completely.  And the road from Oxbow to Sani will go the same way. 

The tar road around the south from Mohaleshoek to Qachasnek is there.  The link between Maseru and Qachas is also in progress via Roma, Ramabanta, Semonkong and down the hill to Sekake.  The last section will be a challenge....
There is a lot of overseas money being poured into Lesotho for this purpose.

The political will is there - Sani.  I am not aware of any specific contract for tarring Sani beign awarded to date, but looking at all of the above, it will probably happen.  We also thought that building a tar road to Katse was impossible, but it is there now.  Sani is a small job in comparison.

The health infrastructure upgrade project is busy spending US$ 800M.  Hundreds of clinics are being built.  Staffing them with Zimbabweans and Malawians.  As soon as a Mosotho is qualified and enters the "middle class", they want to work in Maseru and the lowlands.  In the mountains, they battle to find willing people to do the work.
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2011, 11:44:12 am »
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2011, 12:26:36 pm »
I doubt they will tar it for the poor souls landlocked in Lesotho. IMO there is a huge dam due to be built near Mokgotlong. Tar road will give 24/7 access to the huge vehicles needed to build this dam. The conglomerates don't care about the poor souls. It is progress (money) that drives this.

The dam is called the Polihali Dam, it is going to cost 7.3 Billion Rand to build, the wall will be165-m-high and it will have a 2,2-billion-cubic-metre-capacity. The project started in 2011 and will be completed around 2017.

http://www.trademarksa.org/news/lesotho-water-project-needs-scrutiny

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/second-phase-of-water-project-to-increase-economic-growth-2009-06-05
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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2011, 04:26:35 pm »
My wife is working with the project , Sani is going to be tarred but the esses are going to be scrapped because the esses are too dangerous. A new route going up is planned, same area though .
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2011, 09:47:54 pm »
How about a road going straight up and giving all the trucks super lowrange. :pot:
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2012, 12:45:33 pm »
I also went up Sani about 10 days ago and it is virtually in gravel highway condition! I must say I am skeptical about it being tarred even in the next 10 years (forget the Swiss...Chinese maybe yes) and even then no big trucks are going to negotiate it regularly, forget it. The big trucks will enter elsewhere and stay in the mountain kingdom - as said there are BIG road projects on the go in the Kao mine area and really VERY BIG Volvo trucks etc ... moving vast amounts of Lesotho around  :o
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Re: tarring the sani pass
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2012, 03:17:19 pm »
I also went up Sani about 10 days ago and it is virtually in gravel highway condition! I must say I am skeptical about it being tarred even in the next 10 years (forget the Swiss...Chinese maybe yes) and even then no big trucks are going to negotiate it regularly, forget it. The big trucks will enter elsewhere and stay in the mountain kingdom - as said there are BIG road projects on the go in the Kao mine area and really VERY BIG Volvo trucks etc ... moving vast amounts of Lesotho around  :o
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