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Offline Mikie

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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2017, 09:03:42 am »
Brainwashed it seems to me
Even converted to Islam as well

Do any of you even think his marriage will last?
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2017, 09:17:53 am »
Here's a silly conspiracy theory: Maybe Gift of the Givers uses bogus negotiations to legally export funds to terrorist organisations?  :pot:
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2017, 09:56:48 am »
Here's a silly conspiracy theory: Maybe Gift of the Givers uses bogus negotiations to legally export funds to terrorist organisations?


NEVER. Never, ever! Shame on you for even thing that. May a thousand flea infest their armpits for that.
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #143 on: August 11, 2017, 10:06:22 am »
Quote from: Geriatrix on August 11, 2017, 09:56:48 am
Here's a silly conspiracy theory: Maybe Gift of the Givers uses bogus negotiations to legally export funds to terrorist organisations?


NEVER. Never, ever! Shame on you for even thing that. May a thousand flea infest their armpits for that.
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #144 on: August 11, 2017, 11:48:11 am »
They (GOG) make contact and then negotiate.........
I often wonder if every now and then  a negotiator or contact is picked up by CIA Mossad etc  and has their thumbs screwed  a bit, collateral damage etc.
Its a Murky Clandestine world, no ways is someone going to walk around Mali making contact with terrorist organizations for free.

Anyone know if the Swede and Dutch Guy converted too ?
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2017, 01:33:27 pm »
A all night jol at Teasers and a Wimpie breakfast in the morning will cure him.  I haven't converted, but might try this myself, in case.
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2017, 01:41:14 pm »
Quote from: Mikie on August 11, 2017, 09:03:42 am
Brainwashed it seems to me
Even converted to Islam as well

Do any of you even think his marriage will last?

My thoughts exactly.

Anyway, moving on...what about his sister   ::)
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2017, 09:00:09 pm »
Was thinking about that, and have to say if he did not "convert" he would have been chopped for sure. Its the way of islam. ::)

Sorry to say he is probably going to support the jihad against the west now.  :-\
« Last Edit: August 11, 2017, 09:00:44 pm by BlueBull2007 »
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #148 on: December 29, 2017, 05:56:34 pm »
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #149 on: December 30, 2017, 07:48:39 am »
One wonders what would have happened had he not converted to Islam.  :-\
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #150 on: December 30, 2017, 08:37:37 am »
Quote from: BlueBull2007 on December 30, 2017, 07:48:39 am
One wonders what would have happened had he not converted to Islam.  :-\
I think it would not have had a good outcome.
I cannot help to wonder if he has truly converted or just did it for survival?
I am just glad that he is free and hope that he can adapt back to his "old" life without to much hassles.
I take my hat off to his wife, she is a good woman!
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #151 on: December 30, 2017, 08:44:23 am »
Quote from: BlueBull2007 on December 30, 2017, 07:48:39 am
One wonders what would have happened had he not converted to Islam.  :-\

By all accounts, he seems to have converted on his own accord six months into captivity, and as he stated, Sjaak and Johan also converted and they all noticed an immediate improvement in their treatment.
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #152 on: December 31, 2017, 07:37:54 am »
« Last Edit: December 31, 2017, 07:45:52 am by Skaiidawg »
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #153 on: December 31, 2017, 07:47:29 am »
Quote from: Skaiidawg on December 31, 2017, 07:37:54 am


Quote from: Fudge on December 30, 2017, 08:44:23 am
Sjaak and Johan also converted and they all noticed an immediate improvement in their treatment.
Johan said he only "converted" to survive

https://www.google.ae/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/636542/muslim-islam-mali-al-qaida-convert-johan-gustafsson-sweden-terrorist-sahara-desert/amp

Perfectly reasonable under the circumstances. Point is, they were not forced to do so as has been assumed by some here.
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #154 on: December 31, 2017, 01:09:17 pm »
Quote from: Fudge on December 31, 2017, 07:47:29 am
Quote from: Skaiidawg on December 31, 2017, 07:37:54 am


Quote from: Fudge on December 30, 2017, 08:44:23 am
Sjaak and Johan also converted and they all noticed an immediate improvement in their treatment.
Johan said he only "converted" to survive

https://www.google.ae/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/636542/muslim-islam-mali-al-qaida-convert-johan-gustafsson-sweden-terrorist-sahara-desert/amp

Perfectly reasonable under the circumstances. Point is, they were not forced to do so as has been assumed by some here.
Coercion takes on many forms... the fact that their situation "improved" points out quite clearly that a threat was made however subtle. The fact remains islam is evil. Period. :deal:
Pussyfooting about that fact is what will make it florish even more. :sip:
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #155 on: December 31, 2017, 01:17:03 pm »
Religious fundamentalism is evil, regardless of the doctrine is based on.
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #156 on: December 31, 2017, 01:19:58 pm »
Quote from: Fudge on December 31, 2017, 01:17:03 pm
Religious fundamentalism is evil, regardless of the doctrine is based on.
There you go... generalising again instead of focusing on the evil of islam as a doctrine to dominate the world. :deal:
Once you are able to distinguish the fact that it is not a religion but a doctrine you become enlightend and reach Nirvana... :snorting:
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #157 on: December 31, 2017, 01:40:27 pm »
Well if you perceive Islam to be your enemy, should you not love them as your Holy Book instructs you to do?
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #158 on: December 31, 2017, 03:40:51 pm »
Quote from: Fudge on December 31, 2017, 01:17:03 pm
Religious fundamentalism is evil, regardless of the doctrine is based on.

100% agree  :sip:
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Re: Biker kidnapped - end of a travelling era in Africa?
« Reply #159 on: July 04, 2018, 03:55:44 pm »
Former al-Qaeda prisoner Stephen McGowan has warned anyone traveling out of the country to remain vigilant and to trust no one.

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/gauteng/trust-no-one-former-al-qaeda-hostage-mcgowans-warning-to-south-africans-15828674
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