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Offline wayneh

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Getting up steep inclines
« on: January 16, 2012, 09:18:26 am »
Kameelkop, Leftless & I were out in Altantis on Sunday... Eeish, was it hot!

Anyway, we came across a mega hill climb with no run up, so even hitting the climb at full taps only got you halfway up... It didn't help that the sand was particularly soft - like talcum powder.  >:D



We found a team effort was required, with a towrope and lots of sweat.




We chatted about manufacturing a simple pulley system for such like situations... Anyone done this before?

 

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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 09:27:54 am »
Wow, that is bladdy steep  :o
 

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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 09:29:26 am »
If it wasn't for the fact that I slept most of the afternoon, I would have the pulley system to go test this afternoon!  :imaposer:
 

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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 09:34:29 am »
See you guys keep fit n :thumleft: Kameelkop, ek sien daai fiets pas jou soos handskoen..
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 09:47:04 am »
See you guys keep fit n :thumleft: Kameelkop, ek sien daai fiets pas jou soos handskoen..


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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 10:15:40 am »
When climbing a hill like that 5 km/h of momentum is better than 300 hp!  :D
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 01:52:58 pm »
When climbing a hill like that 5 km/h of momentum is better than 300 hp!  :D

+100  :thumleft:  ...Too much gas with too little momentum = buried to the skid plate.
 

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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 02:01:17 pm »
A pulley system is relatively easy to construct, the main drawback being that it requires a lot of rope! Basically a DIY block & tackle - rope form the bike to the fixed point, through a wheeled shackle, back to bike, through the next eye, back to the fixed point & so on about 3 times in each direction - result is that you can pull the bike up by yourself. Downside is that if the fixed point & bike are 10m apart, you need about 60+ meteres of rope.......
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 02:24:56 pm »
What jersey is that brother with the white pant wearing? Is that Klim Mojave? Looks very nicely ventilated - where do I get one?

We were also doing some steep climbs at Maraisburg on the weekend, but on the plastic bikes. Difference is that we had quite a long run up and you hit the thing 3rd gear powerband. I just feel sorry for the bike's motor when doing this. Revving it in the pink like that - and keeping it pinned for quite long.
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 02:51:28 pm »
Etter.....daai bikes is die shit!! Geluikkig bliksems!!  :thumleft:
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 02:52:59 pm »
And who said winches were not a DS accessory.... ;D
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 03:00:31 pm »
what about a type of wide flat strap/sail that you just roll out and ancor at the top, thus riding on top of the strap and not the sand, about twice the width of the tyres.....you know what I mean.... :biggrin:
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 03:29:56 pm »
This could work,
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2012, 04:13:08 pm »
 :thumleft:  BAIE nice fietse.............en die sand lyk soos Moz s'n!! :mwink:
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2012, 04:36:25 pm »
Even a simple pulley so the person pulling can use their weight by pulling down the hill will make a huge difference. you guys must of roasted out there.   >:D
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2012, 04:38:55 pm »
A nice length of rope and one pulley will already almost double the pulling force, or halve the effort...
 

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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2012, 04:59:17 pm »
There we go - now the bushes are growing upright and the going should be much easier on the bikes too.  :pot:
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2012, 05:52:28 pm »
Ons het nou nie sulke lekker sandbanke hier in Gauteng nie, maar ek het dieselfde ding met my KLR probeer. Dis maklik, jy ry net flat - out tot so amper bo, dan dump jy jou bike na die linkerkant toe.
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2012, 07:24:08 pm »


Sjoe maar julle is gelukkig dat jul sidestands gewerk het teen so 'n verskriklike angle!!  :biggrin:
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Re: Getting up steep inclines
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2012, 08:54:58 pm »
Julle sal nie daar op nie, dis n Yamaha bult. :xxbah: