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..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« on: July 26, 2007, 08:55:45 am »
As posted in the BMW buys Husqvarna thread, I'm interested in buying a 2007 Husqvarna SM125S. It's a 2-stroke supermotard that weighs 113kg with 28kW on tap, but costs around the R40k mark new (so I'd probably be looking for a 2nd hand example). Reason for wanting it is mainly to commute, but also to enable me to have some off-road fun on local MX tracks and dirt roads.



I've got a couple of questions though.

1. The 2007 model features an electronic carburetion system, mixes the 2-stroke oil with the petrol automatically and is the first 2-stroke they produce that's Euro 3 compliant, so it doesn't smoke a lot. Would I smell alot worse when I get to work than if I rode a 4-stroke? I work in an office, so this is important.

2. It's got a top speed of 132km/h with faster acceleration up to 120km/h than a Cagiva Mito 125 and Aprilia RS125. I know 2-stroke engines have less torque than 4-stroke engines, so in your opinion, would the torque available be enough to maintain at least 120km/h against hills, head-winds and the like?

3. I've heard from some that Husky engines and engineering (except electrics) are bullet-proof, but I've also heard otherwise? Any experience/hearsay/opinion is welcome, but I would prefer experience. Also, how often would I need to service and am I correct in saying that 2-strokes are cheaper to service?
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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 09:55:28 am »
personally, if you wanted something fun to get to work and back, and play a bit on the weekends, I would rather go for a Suzuki DRZ400

available as either "enduro" or supermotard, 400cc means more range and more top speed (you won't have to trailer it to places to ride offroad), etc, etc

it obviously won't be as nimble as the husky, but should be fun nevertheless

The "enduro" is R52k new and the motard R48k (I think)
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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 11:01:40 am »
personally, if you wanted something fun to get to work and back, and play a bit on the weekends, I would rather go for a Suzuki DRZ400

available as either "enduro" or supermotard, 400cc means more range and more top speed (you won't have to trailer it to places to ride offroad), etc, etc

it obviously won't be as nimble as the husky, but should be fun nevertheless

The "enduro" is R52k new and the motard R48k (I think)

I'm not convinced that the Suzuki would be better. It would probably be more reliable and it would have more torque, but the Husky would be more fun, also... The DRZ400 weighs 137kg, has 29kW on tap, a top speed of 145km/h and a 10l fuel tank. The SM125S weighs 113kg, has 28kW on tap, a top speed of 132km/h and a 9.5l fuel tank. So there goes the "more range" argument and I wouldn't need a trailer either. One or two teeth less at the back would probably get me the same top speed, and for the price difference I can add a DEP expansion chamber for more power and torque across the range, plus have spare change left for full off-road kit.

Now, any advice on the above questions anyone?
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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 11:34:59 am »
I wasn't aware that their tanks were so similar, I guess I naturally assumed the Suzuki had a larger tank. my bad.
 

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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2007, 11:48:28 am »
I wasn't aware that their tanks were so similar, I guess I naturally assumed the Suzuki had a larger tank. my bad.

No problem. The Husky SM125S is developed from their WR125 endurance bike, thus the bigish tank. I actually made a mistake, as it doesn't have a 9.5l, but a 10.2l fuel tank.

Article: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=918&fArticleId=3022941

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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2007, 05:06:16 pm »
Given the same size tank, the DRZ would go a lot further.
I once thought of my KDX200 as a commuter bike, you can get it road registered but then I counted the costs.
I used about 10l per 100km offroad, it might be a little better onroad, scary figures. Plus about R25 worth of 2T oil for that distance each time.

You wont smell from a 2T, just keep moving forward! ;)

Get the enduro model, better wheels for offroad. Dunlop D606 are cheapish for general use.

 

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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2007, 06:42:39 pm »
Just a Q, why would you buy a motard and use it offroad?
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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2007, 01:59:27 pm »
Given the same size tank, the DRZ would go a lot further.
I once thought of my KDX200 as a commuter bike, you can get it road registered but then I counted the costs.
I used about 10l per 100km offroad, it might be a little better onroad, scary figures. Plus about R25 worth of 2T oil for that distance each time.

You wont smell from a 2T, just keep moving forward! ;)

Get the enduro model, better wheels for offroad. Dunlop D606 are cheapish for general use.



Did fuel consumption not improve considerably in the last 10 years? What year model was your KDX? Point taken with the cost of 2T oil though, but how much does good 2T oil cost anyway, and how much per litre of fuel would I need?

Just a Q, why would you buy a motard and use it offroad?

Supermotard races used to be paved track, packed gravel and jumps all-in-one. That's why, and also because I want something that's nimble in all environments, more fun and easy to make use of curb-hopping/shortcuts when needed.
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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2007, 03:06:41 pm »
Good synthetic oil is about R120 a liter, you need 250ml per 10L if you running 40:1

My KDX is a 2006 model, but then again its 1997 technology and its ridden hard, high in the rev range.
On tar it may be less, but maybe more if you are like me and love the thrill of a 2T kick !

 

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Re: ..2007 Husqvarna SM125S...
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2007, 03:25:58 pm »
Good synthetic oil is about R120 a liter, you need 250ml per 10L if you running 40:1

So filling up a 10L tank costs about R70 for the petrol and R40 for the oil? Eina, that's expensive going!

On tar it may be less, but maybe more if you are like me and love the thrill of a 2T kick!

Well, I've only ever experienced the thrill of a 2T kick once, and must say that I'm very much in love!

My facial expressions through the 2T rev range:

Start and blip-blip: :)

The bottom revs: ???

Wam Bam TY Mam: :o

I need a smoke: ;D
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