Author Topic: Why the 800GS is a better 2 up touring bike than the 1200GS/GSA (Read 1577 times)

Slaaiblaar · « **on:** February 01, 2012, 12:41:20 am »

Because I do not need to loose weight!!!!

Between these 3 models the 800GS can carry the biggest payload

Lets take the average SA male 100kg, (including beer boep) 115kg up to (exstra large beer boep) 130+kg
Average SA female 70kg (guesstimate)

Rider + pillion = 170KG (Ave SA)
Rider + pillion = 185KG (including beer boep)
Rider + pillion = 200KG (exstra large beer boep)

1200GS Max Payload 206kg
36kg left for luggage (Ave SA)
21kg left for luggage (including beer boep)
6kg left for luggage

1200GSA Max Payload 216kg
46kg left for luggage (Ave SA)
31kg left for luggage (including beer boep)
16kg left for luggage (exstra large beer boep)

800GS Max Payload 236kg
66kg left for luggage (Ave SA)
51kg left for luggage (including beer boep)
36KG left for luggage (exstra large beer boep)

Now add the +/- 15kg for a set of panniers excl. brackets

Plaashaas · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2012, 05:16:52 am »

Know about these facts still dont beleive it

King Louis · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2012, 06:54:26 am »

Why didn't you buy a truck?

Coala · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2012, 06:57:28 am »

have both in our garage (ADV and 800). ADV better at two-up touring - full stop.

oo7 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:10:47 am »

<sigh>

Now that you have compared the payload, howzabout you compare the engines/performance as well?

KTM11 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:14:30 am »

Quote from: King Louis on February 01, 2012, 06:54:26 am

Why didn't you buy a truck?

2StrokeDan · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:14:49 am »

I do not think that you can compare the 800 at all to ou grote in 2-up touring. The 1200's torque is the decider.

Oshkosh · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:17:25 am »

Quote from: 2StrokeDan on February 01, 2012, 07:14:49 am

I do not think that you can compare the 800 at all to ou grote in 2-up touring. The 1200's torque is the decider.

2nd That

Rynet · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:25:18 am »

Well good luck in finding a pillion willing to prove your theory, as the GS 800 must be the most uncomfortable bike to pillion (off -road)

Dwerg · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:28:19 am »

I don't think a couple that weigh 200kgs are going to be the active outdoorsy types

White Rhino · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:31:46 am »

What a load of kak. The GSA has hydrolic adjustable suspension - it maintains good clearance. A fully laden 800 with pillion and luggage sits lower than the 1200 - makes a big difference - We've bent the rear suspension bolt going through a dip at speed.

The other big factor the GSA has lots more seating space - much more comfortable - ask my wife

Pistol · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:33:11 am »

Quote from: Dwerg on February 01, 2012, 07:28:19 am

I don't think a couple that weigh 200kgs are going to be the active outdoorsy types

What you saying, me and the missus fat? Short one

Battlestar · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:42:10 am »

Quote from: Oshkosh on February 01, 2012, 07:17:25 am

Quote from: 2StrokeDan on February 01, 2012, 07:14:49 am
I do not think that you can compare the 800 at all to ou grote in 2-up touring. The 1200's torque is the decider.
2nd That

3rd That

Dwerg · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:48:50 am »

Quote from: Pistol on February 01, 2012, 07:33:11 am

Quote from: Dwerg on February 01, 2012, 07:28:19 am
I don't think a couple that weigh 200kgs are going to be the active outdoorsy types

What you saying, me and the missus fat? Short one

No just you

Slaaiblaar · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:02:52 am »

Torque...useless if subframe is bend and guarantee void because it was overloaded

Baches · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:07:36 am »

Nee wat die 1200 het baie meer krag !

dassie · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:17:33 am »

I think this is one of those cases like the claim that a land rover defender can managea bigger load than the land cruizer pickup (legal sense spoken). Aparently it has something to do with the braking power and the way Toyota registered the vehicle when it was patended.

Any way what a load of crap

. As a farmer, and driver of boath, i will sure as shit rather take a bigger load on the cruizer than on the landie. They are both great vehicles, but have diferent qualities.

I cant believe they would claim that the GS1200 have a lesser payload than the GS 800. But like i say, i think its one of those cases

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Slaaiblaar · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:27:27 am »

What is the use off a comfy seat, torque, power, seat space if it can not take the load, do we just lad it like a taxi.....if there is space load it

Dwerg....van ons kan tenminste by di boonste kassies in die kombuis bykom sonder n stoeltjie......en ek en my vrou weeg 200kg saam (nie haar bydrae nie)

Dwerg · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:33:18 am »

Quote from: Slaaiblaar on February 01, 2012, 08:27:27 am

What is the use off a comfy seat, torque, power, seat space if it can not take the load, do we just lad it like a taxi.....if there is space load it

Dwerg....van ons kan tenminste by di boonste kassies in die kombuis bykom sonder n stoeltjie......en ek en my vrou weeg 200kg saam (nie haar bydrae nie)

Bliksem geen wonder niks van die 2e handse goed te koop op die site is ooit my size nie. Ek en my vrou is saam 130kg $:-\$

GSLaaitie · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:33:51 am »

Nee moer. Die payload is maar net een van baie goed wat vir my belangrik is. Ek vat veel eerder minder goed saam op 'n GSA, sodat ek nie hoef te luister na 'n gemoan oor hoe ongeflippenmaklik die seat is nie! En die GSA het soveel krag, jy kom amper nie eers agter as jy 'n pillion gelaai het nie!