Author Topic: Why the 800GS is a better 2 up touring bike than the 1200GS/GSA (Read 1569 times)

Swart Baard · « **Reply #40 on:** February 01, 2012, 11:16:17 am »

Quote from: ClimbingTurtle on February 01, 2012, 11:09:18 am

GSA for King of the Touring Road!
Looked and tried the F800 before buying the GSA - the deciding factor was that the usable area is better on the GSA - pillion sits & stands more comfortably and the extra torque is welcome. My pillion & I weight in at 140kg without luggage, so the "Max Load" is not all that applicable.... And I always thought we were supposed to back light anyway!!

This is normally the issue when we do away trips on the bike. But wifey always find another small gap for a hairbrush or small make up bottle etc.

Next time I am weighing the panniers and topbox . . . we might actually be over the max payload of even the 800

tau · « **Reply #41 on:** February 01, 2012, 12:04:22 pm »

Quote from: Swart Baard on February 01, 2012, 11:16:17 am

Quote from: ClimbingTurtle on February 01, 2012, 11:09:18 am
GSA for King of the Touring Road!
Looked and tried the F800 before buying the GSA - the deciding factor was that the usable area is better on the GSA - pillion sits & stands more comfortably and the extra torque is welcome. My pillion & I weight in at 140kg without luggage, so the "Max Load" is not all that applicable.... And I always thought we were supposed to back light anyway!!

This is normally the issue when we do away trips on the bike. But wifey always find another small gap for a hairbrush or small make up bottle etc.

Next time I am weighing the panniers and topbox . . . we might actually be over the max payload of even the 800

Ja nee kyk. Me without wife can travel on a WR 450 lekker. With the wife a GSA and 3 x panniers becomes too small......

This is what a GSA was made for, for all the negatives this bike has the pillion capability makes it in a class of its own.

ETS · « **Reply #42 on:** February 01, 2012, 12:14:05 pm »

Take your wife on both-- for that sake, any bike. 1200GS is the best pillion bike. Klaar.

Puddles · « **Reply #43 on:** February 01, 2012, 12:17:35 pm »

Quote from: Rynet on February 01, 2012, 07:25:18 am

Well good luck in finding a pillion willing to prove your theory, as the GS 800 must be the most uncomfortable bike to pillion (off -road)

Have to agree with you here !!!

Gypsybaron · « **Reply #44 on:** February 01, 2012, 12:26:26 pm »

Ek sê maar niks want ek het maar 'n 1150 en nie 'n 1200 nie, maar na 930km op 1 dag op my 1150 wou ek net nog aanhou ry - ek het toe beter gevoel as na 'n kort 20km trippie...

TransAlpie · « **Reply #45 on:** February 01, 2012, 01:12:43 pm »

At my last service they gave me a 2011 800GS for the day. Man give me my 2004 1200GS any day you can keep the 800GS it does not even come close

Hennie · « **Reply #46 on:** February 01, 2012, 01:55:11 pm »

Oh I hate necro-posting

Fuzzy Muzzy · « **Reply #47 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:16:17 pm »

I was looking at the 800 and the 1200.. I think this thread answered my question.. 1200 it is!!

Slaaiblaar · « **Reply #48 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:00:00 pm »

Here we again.......
The post is actually about the max load capasity and nothing else.

I never pillion the wife but yesterday I was thinking of upgrading to a 1200GS because one of the reasons of not pillioning was that I think we are to big for the 800. This was when I saw the load specs.

Was actually shocked, about these specs.

Back to the topic

Things I think about is safety. Out of safety point which is the better

Sore ass or overloaded vehicle?

DUSTRIDERS · « **Reply #49 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:02:33 pm »

Quote from: Slaaiblaar on February 01, 2012, 03:00:00 pm

Here we again.......
The post is actually about the max load capasity and nothing else.

I never pillion the wife but yesterday I was thinking of upgrading to a 1200GS because one of the reasons of not pillioning was that I think we are to big for the 800. This was when I saw the load specs.

Was actually shocked, about these specs.

Back to the topic

Things I think about is safety. Out of safety point which is the better

Sore ass or overloaded vehicle?

But you know a standard 800 is "lewensgevaarlik" out the box?

Swart Baard · « **Reply #50 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:04:31 pm »

Quote from: Slaaiblaar on February 01, 2012, 03:00:00 pm

Here we again.......
The post is actually about the max load capasity and nothing else.

I never pillion the wife but yesterday I was thinking of upgrading to a 1200GS because one of the reasons of not pillioning was that I think we are to big for the 800. This was when I saw the load specs.

Was actually shocked, about these specs.

Back to the topic

Things I think about is safety. Out of safety point which is the better

Sore ass or overloaded vehicle?

You have a point there

Sore ass it is then . . . bike ry is nie vir sissies nie

Plaashaas · « **Reply #51 on:** February 01, 2012, 03:08:35 pm »

Jinne maar julle is skroewe

the oke just quoted a fact

relax f-rk

Rynet · « **Reply #52 on:** February 01, 2012, 04:29:42 pm »

Quote from: Plaashaas on February 01, 2012, 03:08:35 pm

Jinne maar julle is skroewe

the oke just quoted a fact

relax f-rk

But honey but what good is a fact on paper , if no pillions can stand on the pegs . It's not the seat that is hard, it is the standing position of the GS 800. Must we keep quite and let him buy a GS 800 and then realise that his wife will never go on trips with him ?

Magnum · « **Reply #53 on:** February 01, 2012, 04:44:53 pm »

Shows you not all BMW's are faultless.

Plaashaas · « **Reply #54 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:57:27 pm »

Quote from: Rynet on February 01, 2012, 04:29:42 pm

Quote from: Plaashaas on February 01, 2012, 03:08:35 pm
Jinne maar julle is skroewe

the oke just quoted a fact

relax f-rk

But honey but what good is a fact on paper , if no pillions can stand on the pegs . It's not the seat that is hard, it is the standing position of the GS 800. Must we keep quite and let him buy a GS 800 and then realise that his wife will never go on trips with him ?

Maybe your wife needs to go for yoga lessons to be more flexible

Biza · « **Reply #55 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:26:28 pm »

Quote from: Coala on February 01, 2012, 06:57:28 am

have both in our garage (ADV and 800). ADV better at two-up touring - full stop.

Same here, I prefer to ride alone and take all the luggage (beer boep excluded) and the wife on her 800 with only topbox..

Gérrard · « **Reply #56 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:32:35 pm »

OK, what is the speck supposed to mean ? Is that when you reach that weight it will adversely affect the bikes handeling or that the subframe will break.

What's the point being made ?

Advrider · « **Reply #57 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:34:30 pm »

a SPANNER in the works Die beste one up bike off road van die grt fietse is die 990

Gérrard · « **Reply #58 on:** February 01, 2012, 08:41:01 pm »

Quote from: jupiter on February 01, 2012, 08:32:35 pm

OK, what is the speck supposed to mean ? Is that when you reach that weight it will adversely affect the bikes handeling or that the subframe will break.

What's the point being made ?

Let me expand further. On the spec you gave my Africa Twin had a bigger load carrying capacity than the GSA. My wife and I load 215kg on the bike when touring. On the AT I knew I had that weight on the bike... on the GSA I'm not aware of it

Did the spec then have any bearing on the bikes's capabilities as a tourers ? The lower spec bike is the better tourer !

Gypsybaron · « **Reply #59 on:** February 01, 2012, 09:06:10 pm »

I think the specs only indicates the total mass allowed - GVM - the mass the tyres and rims can safely carry all day. The 800 is lighter, meaning it can have more "payload" that's why they put the bigger tyres on in this photo Bring it On posted a while back