Girls with bikes!

[JustBendIt]

Please play the ball and not the man

I’m not an old fart - I’m a 42 year old red blooded man who loves and celebrates the female form as much as the next guy

My question was is this thread necessary here on this forum?

These pics can be found in seconds in a million different places - do we still need to see them here?

And it turns out that the majority (or at least the most vocal) say yes

[Fudmucker]

Ok, with permission from Bie.  Not sure to what extent he agrees , but I thought pics of real women with weapons , but also posed ones . No nudity , and keep it clean  , that goes without saying.  Gooi your pics , please . 

After the hoo-hah that is taking place here, I went back to the original post by a most respected lady WD on the "Women with Weapons" thread.

I found...  nudity!

In the very first post, half of the ladies pics posted were uncovered in some part between the neck and the knees.
Now I realise that "nudity" means different things to different people, but seriously...?

The purists are pushing for a departure from 'objectivising" females, yet in everyday life they display some part of the female body as an 'expression of their personality'.  I have no objection to this AT ALL...   but then don't blame me for looking and don't blame me for appreciating the beauty of the female form being revealed!  I am perfectly able to view a female in whatever state of undress she may choose to be seen or photographed,
without losing control of my desires to the extent that I would force myself upon her.

At a recent friend's son's bachelors party I attended, there was a casino theme - with topless croupiers.
Although a bit bizarre at first, I had no problem conversing socially with a very attractive young lady who was totally unclothed from the hips up.
She was willingly and enthusiastically performing a service that was deliberately intended to titillate (pun intended).
The only rule was "no touching" - and there were some who tried, but were severely rebuked.

I LOVE WOMEN !
I can look at their beauty and appreciate their personality whether it is only their eyes, their faces, their torso or the full extent of their form that is revealed to me.
The eyes are window to the soul... not the navel or the nipples.

[ZooDog]

After posting those pics of men on bikes and seeing his forum name as just bend it, it all makes sense

[ZooDog]

Also just thinking how many people will be out of jobs if men stop being men hahaha all those girls well most of them get paid for there work what now who’s gona pay to see a gender neutral thing. Also if I get into a fight with a. Gender neutral and it ends up being a woman am I women beater or just a guy who got into a fight with another guy ?

[Rynet]

Fudmucker , with respect, I think you posted about what I said on here without actually reading my posts.  Please do me a favour and go read my last few posts on this thread.

I actually did not complain about the photographs themselves . I said that I have also in the past posted pictures, but the comments by guys has made it impossible to participate and I had to walk away.

Please guys, read what Justin , MInxy and I said before you answer.  We all said something different from each other. And we have a right to say something.

Per se , this thread itself has not bothered me. When Justin spoke up I was so proud that he was ( dare I say it ) MAN enough to speak up.  I am sure I speak for all those that spoke up and the idea behind speaking was not to police the thread or remove it. We were just voicing our opinions.

In my case I am keen for guys posting here to just take a few seconds to think to themselves before they make " rapey comments' about the beautiful women who pose her. If only a few guys think before they ink I am happy. I don't want to police.

But when one of the Wilddogs that I admire most , ie Fudmucker , did not even read what I wrote then alas I don't hold much hope that the others will read it.

Fudmucker has always been one to stand up for women. And gave a link to a very thought- provoking article from 2017 which I saved .

https://www.filmsforaction.org/takeaction/a-gentlemens-guide-to-rape-culture/

So in my case, all I ask is that before you make those rapey comments, know that as "fellow"-women , those kind of comments have a way of putting us on the back foot, akward , even shame if you participate here you will see them . Which is why I don't participate anymore despite posting before.  And also the world is changing , in the current gender violence climate it would be nice to perhaps tone down the rapey jokes ?

I love the female form , and the male form , but it is the comments that has spoilt it for me. Just maybe those women wanted to be sexy , but not objectified by telling us what you would do with them. I know , it's is a fine line. 


As the writer in Fudmucker's article says, women are vulnerable and men have no idea what that feels like. Women have skin of glas. Men do not know what it feels like when guys make lewd comments about letting a women have it , maybe ask your wives. Now with the #menaretrash movement ( which I don't support btw)  , men are starting to feel what it feels  like to be targeted. So in my case guys , post on , but please take a few seconds to think of your replies and how it would land to the women on the forum. It's definitely a good discussion to have in this changing world. Thanks Justin , again , you are my hero of the month. 

[Rynet]

After posting those pics of men on bikes and seeing his forum name as just bend it, it all makes sense

JustBendit is red-blooded, good-looking , happily married hetrosexual and knows how to ride a bike , fix it and sommer sell it too so don't you worry . 

Listen guys, we are on the same side here , no need to bring out the uglies.

We were simply speaking up in a changing world.   

[ZooDog]

And everybody is so sensitive and nothing can be said anymore.

[Rynet]

And everybody is so sensitive and nothing can be said anymore.

Yes that must suck hey.  No one like to change. I know it is nice here as it is .  What a pain that the sensitives like me are complaining.

But yes society is changing and trying to make it nicer for everyone, not just the men. 

Thank you for understanding.   

[jaybiker]

If the objection to "Girls with bikes" is that it has little relevance to adventure motorcycling, then the same could surely be said about other threads on the forum.
Like MotoGP. What relevance does that have to adventure biking?

Remove it? 

[Eendstop]

Are the unsuitable comments not a failure in the people's upbringing? At least I think so.
This contention will also conveniently address another sign of our times. The guilty parties would not have to take responsibility for their actions. They can simply blame it on others - in this instance their parents.

[ZooDog]

It’s a pleasure I try do my bit for society one step at a time

[OomD]

@JustBendIt I am getting the impression that, because this type of objectifying of women bothers you, you also don't want anyone else to see it. But, just because this does not fit into your world view does not give you any kind of right to want to prevent access to it for everyone else? This is a democracy, after all.

@Rynet you are quite right regarding the comments that are the problem, and not the pics themselves. Maybe such comments should be reserved to a thread called "Men only" or such, because those type of comments are always going to be forthcoming. However, a proper upbringing and healthy respect for women should make one refrain from posting such comments, but alas it seems some men have more class than others.

I'm all for such pics, I love and appreciate the beauty of females. Especially, actually, when strategic parts remain clothed, as it is (to me) way sexier than a plain naked women.

As for some of the comments... c'mon guys, don't be pigs. Show some class, and have some respect for the ladies viewing these threads too.

[KiLRoy]

Here is the forum’s stance....

1.  We do not allow racism since it is against the law, and I can personally be liable.  Its also bad for business and imo morally repulsive

2. We do not allow pornography and nudity.  Its not about morals since its not illegal and we are not here to judge.  Its because to keep a certain forum standard which we believe will deteriorate with porn on this site, also because we dont have an age restriction on this site and because many okes view the forum at work where the site will get ‘firewalled’ if porn is detected.  Also career limiting if you are seen watching porn at work or if your children see you watching it when looking for a ride report.

Thats our stance

Personally i suggest...

Keep it classy. We know the boundaries
If you dont like it, dont come here.  I dont. If you want to start a Men and Bikes thread, do so, but dont use this one in spite. Give others the opportunity to decide if they want to visit such a thread.
Bear in mind that someone like @Rynet is an openminded straight talking biker for who i have respect.  Listen to what she said.  Its not about the pics, but about the comments. Think about that.  She was the one who started the Women with Weapons thread, that says a lot. So stop, collaborate listen...

We have seen it all before. When we allowed more, it became smutty when we banned it, we were accused of being anti women nazis - even by women.  This is our compromise - hopefully we can all be adults about it. 

I do welcome and appreciate the discussion though.  Keep it up   in a dedicated thread plse.

We also reserve our right to change our mind about this. 

Ps.  Justin, thanks and respect for bringing this topic up.  I may not agree with everything you said, but you do raise points worth considering.  Maybe even ito future moderating.  It takes guts to be a lone voice - respect

[Fudmucker]

There are over 24 000 members on this forum - mostly men but there are women too
In my opinion this thread has devolved into a soft porn thread updated almost daily by a very small number of the same people
What do our lady members of the forum think of this thread ?
I think its ridiculous - what girls ride bikes in their lingerie with high heels?
Why are there almost no pics of girls who actually ride bikes dressed in their bike gear ?
Images like these are only a google search away - just like I have posted pics of guys with bikes - these esteemed members who keep posting and have posted 360 plus pages if this smut can do it by themselves and keep it to themselves
I would be embarrassed to show this thread to my loved one - it just reinforces the stereotype of the sexist slobbering male biker pig
I think this thread is a slap in the face of every lady out there
Just my 2 cents

Respect to you JustBendit for speaking up 

I used to like this thread but the comments can be a bit hard to swallow

One just above says :" I was just getting ready to un-cage my snake, then this kak appeared!  "

Not very appetising as a woman to see these kind of comments......

Especially in the current climate.  For me it is the comments more than the photos. It makes it more difficult to be just a biker because we automatically feel shame and discomfort because just by virtue of being a woman I am no longer a biker but an object that gets talked about.  We do suck it up, but since Justin did now speak up , here is one of the "previously disadvantaged object "getting off the high heels and into my mind ( which does not always go down well)
As they say porn does not show too much of a person , it shows too little of the person...

Dear Rynet,

I did read your post, but just to show that I receive your meaning, I have bold typed those message portions.

I cannot countenance gutter remarks of other member's posts, but that is their democratic right.
Hopefully they will, in time, realise that it is better to be silent and have others wonder if you are a wanker
instead of speaking out and having everyone be certain of the fact.

I have not changed sides in my views, but continue to support the right of women to be what they are
 - wondrous creatures to be appreciated, nurtured, loved and defended.

[JustBendIt]

The backlash is amusing

I’m now a gay old fart 😂

Thank goodness it’s just the internet or I may face a good old conversion followed by a lynching

[Wayne]

 

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[Wayne]

 

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[TEXC]

To all the supporters of this thread

Would you like to see pics of your mothers, wives, girlfriends and daughters on here ... wearing very little and posing suggestively with a motorcycle?

Would you like 24 000 other people to see this...and uncage their snakes ?

Some years ago a pic appeared right here on this forum of my wife. It was taken many years earlier, and not with a bike, but with a gun. The pic was freely circulating on the internet, and probably still is. It was in a similar thread to this one.

I did not feel offended at all. I did not feel uncomfortable at all. It showed a woman who was very sexy, holding a gun. It was taken many years before I even met her.

I didn't report the pic, I didn't even ask for it to be removed. .

So what if some guys got off on that pic? So what if some guys verbalized their feelings about that pic? It didn't bother my wife, and it didn't bother me.

If this thread bothers you, then don't open it. It's that simple.

If the fact that you can find naked pics of women (or men) on the internet bothers you, don't open the internet.

I know that if I tried hard enough I could find all sorts of stuff on the internet; kiddie porn, snuff movies, all kinds of sick-as-fuck stuff. But I don't go looking for it. And if, by some freak of the internet I do open something like that I just close it and don't open it again.

Pretty simple really 

Morning Mr Zog

I am requesting this with a pure heart. For those who missed the pics of your wife, PLEASE repost them 

[Edgar]

   vir al die moan gatte

[Maverick]

If the ladies on this forum contributed more pictures of themselves riding bikes and showing skin, this thread would see way less views. Alternatively just start a new thread where girls and gays can post pictures of half naked dudes posing with bikes 

I am sure the ladies can't resist getting their pics onto the net showing their skin whilst knowing you waiting to "un-cage your snake" classy....very classy 

@JustBendIt it's all ok until someone's wife or daughter appears on a mates/family phone then everyone wonders how did it get to this point