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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #80 on: August 28, 2012, 01:05:40 pm »
That Honda is a beaut!  :drif: Finally someone is stepping up to challenge KTM's dominance. I think it may take a couple of years though.

Kenisis, I really hope Sam does well too, talk to him and tell him not to ride 100% or we will kick his ass  :deal:

I think our friend Darryl Curtis is going to give it horns this year as well. He has the experience, finishing without injury this year and next year he is on a full blown factory bike. Watch this space.
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #81 on: August 28, 2012, 04:52:59 pm »
Wow Helder Rodrigues? Thats a surprise.

Brazilian Felipe Zanol is going to do well next year, I hope he gets a top five.

could this be the Honda machine to dethrone the Orange?  :mwink:


Do don't think so. It has been proven for at least the last two decades of the Dakar. You can not convert a enduro bike to a championship winning Rally bike. You have to build it from scratch as an rallye bike. And I mean from the engine up. All the bikes that have dominated the Dakar has been pupose built. Even the mighty BMW was bullt from scratch by HPN.  Take a 750 Super Tenere and put it next to the Yamaha twins that Peterhansel raced. It is two completely different bikes. The Cagiva Rallye bike and the Cagiva Elefant. You have to start with a clean slate. Event the KTM 950 Rallye and the KTM 950 AdvS  is two completely different bikes.

I hope some other manufacturers come too the party, but I do not think they take this race seriously. Not enough sales from this class of racing.
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #82 on: August 28, 2012, 08:33:53 pm »
BB The class of the top riders stands out as a category all on thier own. The video's just puts it out there - Thanks.

I think Darryl's a champ but this style of riding has not been riding focus. If he gets a top 10, that's a great achievement for him - same as a first for Marc or Cyril.
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2012, 01:42:33 am »
BB The class of the top riders stands out as a category all on thier own. The video's just puts it out there - Thanks.

I think Darryl's a champ but this style of riding has not been riding focus. If he gets a top 10, that's a great achievement for him - same as a first for Marc or Cyril.

You are so right, WR. I think Darryl is looking for a top ten, but his navigation might let him down. He is very focused this year in preparation for the Dakar, so I think at top ten is very definitely on the cards. Check this out:  :deal:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/UNKnmXuLs1E&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/UNKnmXuLs1E&amp;feature=player_embedded</a>

Go Darryl baby!  :ricky:
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2012, 11:47:43 am »
nice one BB!  :thumleft:
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2012, 11:48:41 am »
The guy is a champ!!

My prediction before the 2012 Dakar was 15th for 2012 and top 10 for 2013. So he came 22nd this year, but I am sticking to my prediction for 2013.
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #86 on: September 08, 2012, 11:44:17 am »
From http://www.facebook.com/Rallyerider:

"Off to Nam for our Dakar road book training with Darryl Curtis, Riaan van Niekerk, David Reeve and Ingo Waldschmidt. About to shoot through Zeerust. Staying in Kang tonight and then Windhoek tomorrow. Will keep you all posted"

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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #87 on: September 08, 2012, 11:47:20 am »
And from http://twitter.com/DarrylCurtisSA:

"Locked and loaded next stop Namibia ... Bring on them dunes !!! "
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #88 on: September 08, 2012, 04:28:29 pm »
Damn, Im jealous
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #89 on: September 08, 2012, 06:22:16 pm »
I know of the four South Africans training in Namibia, but they mentioned a David Reese that I did not know about. Turns out he is the very first Zambian to enter Dakar!
http://www.facebook.com/DakarDaveZambia?ref=stream
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #90 on: September 08, 2012, 06:43:47 pm »
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Great research there Steve! :hello2:
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2012, 09:02:07 pm »
That 450 Honda does look great, and my experience is that when HRC decide to take some title, they do it with astonishing efficiency. I do not class Helder in the same rider class as Coma and Despres, and if he took a backyard Yamaha to 3rd last year, perhaps Coma or Despres could have won on the backyard Yamaha?
 

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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2012, 09:30:12 pm »
Hehe, Dan sorry to say but the Yamaha, is sluggish at high altitude, take it from me so I dont believe an alien could have won on a Yamaha.
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #93 on: September 10, 2012, 05:25:42 am »
BB The class of the top riders stands out as a category all on thier own. The video's just puts it out there - Thanks.

I think Darryl's a champ but this style of riding has not been riding focus. If he gets a top 10, that's a great achievement for him - same as a first for Marc or Cyril.

You are so right, WR. I think Darryl is looking for a top ten, but his navigation might let him down. He is very focused this year in preparation for the Dakar, so I think at top ten is very definitely on the cards. Check this out:  :deal:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/UNKnmXuLs1E&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/UNKnmXuLs1E&amp;feature=player_embedded</a>

Go Darryl baby!  :ricky:
I spoke to Alfie Cox this weekend about Darryl's training, wondering if he's helping him prep - but he said he's doing his own thing. Alfie will hear this week if he's got a ride this year.
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2012, 09:48:35 pm »
From http://www.facebook.com/Rallyerider
"News from ‘Nam is that the boys have finished Day 1’s riding – 410 km of navigational intensity. There are two key elements that make Namibia such a good training ground for the Dakar – conditions are difficult, fast & uncompromising, and ...there are often plenty of navigation options around the little villages, many of which take you The Wrong Way. Regular visitors to Mozambique & Zambia will recognize this pattern, although it should be noted that trying to figure out where you’ve gone wrong while wringing the neck of a 45kW fire-breathing beast that’s trying to kick you off is a slightly more daunting prospect than stopping the Lexus to check the Garmin. I distinctly recall Glen struggling to navigate his way out of Joe’s Beerhouse in Windhoek some years ago, so trying to master the dreaded road book at pace is not an insignificant task. Anyone who’s read Race to Dakar will remember that this was the single hardest piece that Mr Boorman had to deal with. Well, right up until the point where he snapped his hand that is.

Helping Glen & Brett over the next few days is Namibian Ingo Waldschmidt. Ingo finished in a creditable 38th place in the 2011 Dakar, so hopefully he can impart some hard-earned knowledge about the challenges. Together with Darryl Curtis, Riaan van Niekerk, and David Reeve (all competitors in the 2013 Dakar), the boys have a tough few days ahead. The next three days will see them navigating various routes with multiple road books, starting from their base at the foot of Namibia’s highest mountain. Friday brings some dune training, and Saturday sees them charging back to Windhoek on a final 400km leg. That’s around 1840 km in total, hopefully not too much of which is spent lost & confused.
There are some brilliant pictures of the training available here: http://www.rallyerider.com/gallery.html
These next few days are key, before the team jets off to Australia again next week."
 

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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #95 on: September 11, 2012, 09:54:47 pm »
And from Darryl:
"The Namibian training is awesome, the terrain is similar to some of the Dakar stages in South America, the roadbook is great"
 

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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2012, 09:55:39 pm »
Great stuff!  :thumleft:
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2012, 10:00:52 pm »
I didn't see that we can get it straight out of the horses mouth at "Dakar 2013 Training in Namibia"  http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=106636.0
 

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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #98 on: September 12, 2012, 03:15:45 am »
Amazing....these guys spend a week in Namibia and Jet off to do a rally in Australia.....Living my dream!  :drif:
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Re: Dakar 2013
« Reply #99 on: September 12, 2012, 05:51:13 am »
Amazing....these guys spend a week in Namibia and Jet off to do a rally in Australia.....Living my dream!  :drif:

2014 ....

Getting time off work and keeping the homefires burning while you train must be a huge hurdle. Not everyone has the luxury to skip work for such a long time.
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