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By doing that you gonna piss an advertiser off , something which Bike SA is very loathe to do. eveyone knows the vstrom is superior anyway :D

230 on tar ,thats flat out against the engine retarder which suzuki in their wisdom decided to put on in 4th,5th an 6th gear. thats still 2000 rpm short of redline. REcon bout 210 true speed. on dirt bout 180 i guess, on a good dirt highway though... still a relative novice on dirt so i tend...

Thanks man , if you could get me those details i would appreciate it a hellova lot. Long story short , we went an saw the bike on saturday an my mate bought it...i took it for a test ride and was very pleasantly surprised by it...has good grunt and pulls well in all the gears at all revs. Motor...

lo all anyone got any input on these bikes , mate of mine is thinking of buying a 94 model with 60 000 kays on it ...any thoughts/weaknesses etc etc cheers

And for good measure it did it again...maybe i am the old one