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Offline Dux

Beta 250 and 300 - 2 stroke enduro models
« on: September 20, 2012, 08:18:32 pm »
Beta have just launched their new 2 stroke enduro range with a 250 and 300 , both with electric start and they certainly look good .
http://www.betamotor.com/en/enduro/bikes/rr-enduro-2t-250-300

But of course it raises the question of why the Japs don't have anything , just think of it , in Europe we have Beta , GasGas , Husaberg , Husqvarna , KTM ,Ossa and TM with their range of 2 strokes , even Bimota are busy developing their own 2 stroke in 250 and 300 .
So why are the Japanese sitting back with nothing currently and nothing much in the pipeline , where are the days when KDX200/250's , RMX250's and WR200/250 and 500 were popular bikes , surely this is a large worldwide market sector that they can enter with something a bit more cost effective than the Euro brands . And it is not that I have anything against the Euro brands but there are a lot of potential people out there who could afford a modern day KDXRMXWR but not a Euro bike .
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Re: Beta 250 and 300 - 2 stroke enduro models
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 10:25:38 pm »
The Japanese biggest market for offroad bikes is the USA and over there 2T is a dirty word. They are only interested in the supercross and motocross where the 4T's are now firmly established.
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Re: Beta 250 and 300 - 2 stroke enduro models
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2012, 06:50:30 am »
I suppose it makes sense , I recall reading somewhere that the USA is 70% of KTM's offroad market , but there is still a big market for the 2 strokes nonetheless .
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Re: Beta 250 and 300 - 2 stroke enduro models
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 07:11:08 am »
I reckon they'd make quite a few sales if they relaunched the KDX200/250.

spending 80k on a race bike is one thing but to buy a new model just to 'weekend warrior' on, is quite another
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Re: Beta 250 and 300 - 2 stroke enduro models
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 07:56:44 am »
Whoooohoooo now that looks good.  :thumleft:

I have always been a Beta fan, great suspension, all round very nice bike.

Hope they bring some to SA!
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Re: Beta 250 and 300 - 2 stroke enduro models
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 08:09:15 am »
More Euro news is that Sherco who currently have a range of 4 stroke enduro models are busy developing a 250 and 300 2 stroke engine , then Husqvarna are busy developing a fuel injected 250 and 300 , possible available as a 2014  model .

I reckon they'd make quite a few sales if they relaunched the KDX200/250.

spending 80k on a race bike is one thing but to buy a new model just to 'weekend warrior' on, is quite another

While the competitive enduro market is going well at present the social ( weekend warrior ) group is far larger and this is where the Japanese can do well with competitively priced bikes , basically modern KDX200/250 type bikes . In CT there are social enduro's where there are easily 200 + entries , the deal is that a route between 80 and 100km is laid out that entrants can ride on , it is not a race so they can get away without race licenses and such forth . The guys at Service Honda do a really cool KDX engine installed in a KX250F chassis , now just to get the factory to do something similar .
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Re: Beta 250 and 300 - 2 stroke enduro models
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 08:29:31 am »
Different States in the US, which is by far the biggest bike market in the world, have different laws regarding 2 strokes. In some you are not allowed to ride one that was built after 1997, in others you can only ride them during certain months of the year when the ozone levels are low,  and in others you cannot  register one anymore. 

I think that this is too much effort for the Japs with their one size has to fit all philosophy. The Europeans are willing to tailor bikes for specific markets. For example, KTM developed a 2 stroke specifically to meet California emission regulations..
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