BMW ECO 2012 ripoff!!

[Freak]

Okay after reading all farking  9 pages... I give my take.

What the fcuk is the use of terms and conditions if you will wipe your ass on it when it suits you?
Come on chaps... If you didn't read what you signed for.. That's your own stupidity. Simple.
Imagine they allow refund for special cases. Every tool will come up with a valid ( in his books ) reason to be refunded. Death is untimely and unfortunate yes. But business is business.. And they fealty with YOU who entered... Not your family.

Harsh but true...

You messed up. Please just don't write a letter to car magazine !

[2StrokeDan]

Okay after reading all farking  9 pages... I give my take.

What the fcuk is the use of terms and conditions if you will wipe your ass on it when it suits you?
Come on chaps... If you didn't read what you signed for.. That's your own stupidity. Simple.
Imagine they allow refund for special cases. Every tool will come up with a valid ( in his books ) reason to be refunded. Death is untimely and unfortunate yes. But business is business.. And they fealty with YOU who entered... Not your family.

Harsh but true...

You messed up. Please just don't write a letter to car magazine !

The point is missed here, in this case it seems that the T+C's are being used as excuse to take double entry money. The organisers immediately filled `Minzi's places with another PAYING couple, and then hid behind the T+C's to score double. This pisses me off.

[Beagle Boy]

 

[JVR]

Okay after reading all farking  9 pages... I give my take.

What the fcuk is the use of terms and conditions if you will wipe your ass on it when it suits you?
Come on chaps... If you didn't read what you signed for.. That's your own stupidity. Simple.
Imagine they allow refund for special cases. Every tool will come up with a valid ( in his books ) reason to be refunded. Death is untimely and unfortunate yes. But business is business.. And they fealty with YOU who entered... Not your family.

Harsh but true...

You messed up. Please just don't write a letter to car magazine !

The point is missed here, in this case it seems that the T+C's are being used as excuse to take double entry money. The organisers immediately filled `Minzi's places with another PAYING couple, and then hid behind the T+C's to score double. This pisses me off.

Ok, Fok Dan jy kan nou maar aanbeweeg.

[Garfield]

Oom Daan, dit is aangeteken en genotuleer dat jy af geurineer is.
Dit is ook so dat die organiseerders duidelik 'n fok voel dat jy kapsie maak, dit is ook genotuleer.

Is daar nie iewers 'n ABS of ping thread wat jou aandag eerder verdien nie?

[Rynet]

Okay after reading all farking  9 pages... I give my take.

What the fcuk is the use of terms and conditions if you will wipe your ass on it when it suits you?
Come on chaps... If you didn't read what you signed for.. That's your own stupidity. Simple.
Imagine they allow refund for special cases. Every tool will come up with a valid ( in his books ) reason to be refunded. Death is untimely and unfortunate yes. But business is business.. And they fealty with YOU who entered... Not your family.

Harsh but true...

You messed up. Please just don't write a letter to car magazine !

The point is missed here, in this case it seems that the T+C's are being used as excuse to take double entry money. The organisers immediately filled `Minzi's places with another PAYING couple, and then hid behind the T+C's to score double. This pisses me off.

 

Hou nou op om die waarheid te praat Dan , jy sien mos die mense hou nie daarvan nie .

[2StrokeDan]

Fok die mense.

[Garfield]

r

Fok die mense.

Hoe kry mens Coke wat deur jou neus tot n fyn sproei met snot gemeng het van n tablet af?

Nee hel, jy moet mens waarsku.

[JVR]

Fok die mense.

Jy het nie die geld nie en ek het nie die tyd nie.

[2StrokeDan]

Nee hel ouens man, ek sien gereeld hoe die klaers noem hoe hulle sonder smeermiddel moes oorbuk om te koop in ons bedryf, hier is n sprekende voorbeeld van n geldgierigheid wat selfs teenoor familie dood yskoud staan, en julle regop wurms doen fokkol??

[Takashi]

I have followed this and here is my 2c

The organizers over booked - Admitted
Some people canceled - The reason we are here
No refunds - Admitted

I see it that the organizers over booked and everybody paid.
650 people paid their R800 even though it was said only 600 will be allowed. - Fine
Now some cant attend and it is past the refund cut off time.

620 people attend the event (excluding the staff ect....)
How is it that BMW then made money twice. Fine they went over the 600 allowed but this does not mean they only arranged for 600 when they saw 650 has been booked and paid for.
They had 650 bookings 620 attended.... They did not sell the cancelled bookings to anybody else otherwise 650 would have attended.

Or am I looking at it wrong?

[2StrokeDan]

I have followed this and here is my 2c

The organizers over booked - Admitted
Some people canceled - The reason we are here
No refunds - Admitted

I see it that the organizers over booked and everybody paid.
650 people paid their R800 even though it was said only 600 will be allowed. - Fine
Now some cant attend and it is past the refund cut off time.

620 people attend the event (excluding the staff ect....)
How is it that BMW then made money twice. Fine they went over the 600 allowed but this does not mean they only arranged for 600 when they saw 650 has been booked and paid for.
They had 650 bookings 620 attended.... They did not sell the cancelled bookings to anybody else otherwise 650 would have attended.

Or am I looking at it wrong?

I already asked this question, but as someone pointed out, the organisers feel fokkol for a few okes wanting to know.

[Beagle Boy]

r

Fok die mense.

Hoe kry mens Coke wat deur jou neus tot n fyn sproei met snot gemeng het van n tablet af?

Nee hel, jy moet mens waarsku.

[Takashi]

I have followed this and here is my 2c

The organizers over booked - Admitted
Some people canceled - The reason we are here
No refunds - Admitted

I see it that the organizers over booked and everybody paid.
650 people paid their R800 even though it was said only 600 will be allowed. - Fine
Now some cant attend and it is past the refund cut off time.

620 people attend the event (excluding the staff ect....)
How is it that BMW then made money twice. Fine they went over the 600 allowed but this does not mean they only arranged for 600 when they saw 650 has been booked and paid for.
They had 650 bookings 620 attended.... They did not sell the cancelled bookings to anybody else otherwise 650 would have attended.

Or am I looking at it wrong?

I already asked this question, but as someone pointed out, the organisers feel fokkol for a few okes wanting to know.

 
The point I'm trying to make is the spot left by our disgruntled friend was not necessarily filled. Because they had overbooked, as in more people PAID to be there than allowed.

Everyone that paid for the event was catered for with food ect. thus all the overbooked ppl as well.
The late cancellation caused less of a over booking problem but the money spent is still the same.

Nobody replaced the open spot, BMW Club did not sell his spot to someone else and did not make twice the money because of it.

[2StrokeDan]

And the Club never bothered to explain such. From all I have read here, the cancelled spots were filled.

[ButchH]

They had 650 bookings 620 attended=30 did not attend but were catered for simple math

[Takashi]

They overbooked by 40 people and have taken their money. Now, they are down to 26 overbooked ***snip***

This shows that 40 more people paid and they were catered for.

626 then showed up. If the canceled spots were filled then 640 would have attended.

[Fudmucker]

Takashi, you are wasting your time explaining.
The Anti-BMW club is now well established (with some recent floor crossers, I see?)
and nothing you say will convince them otherwise.

Somebody once said:
"There are none so deaf as those who refuse to listen"
Go have a lekker coffee instead.

BYE ALL... 
 

[RogerL]

How is this for a new money making scheme. We had to cancel our ECO trip this year due to my Stepdad being sick and passing away. We contacted Maluti Adventures a couple of weeks ago and informed them. They refunded our accommodation minus some fees, no problem. Our entries into the ECO were filled immediately. David de Bruyn from BMW Clubs informed us that they can not refund our entry fees due to the fact that they had to pay all the vendors already.

Now, my problem is, we paid, the people that took over our entry paid their money, but BMW will not refund our entry fee. Talk about being paid double for performing a single duty.

What is so hard about dealing with the facts.  Where does it state that the overbookees all attended???  It states that Their places were filled immediately. 

If the Overbookees all attended, then they could not have been overbookees!!!  They would have been paid up attendees...

[TheBear]

Fok die mense.

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