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Offline wjn

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Mozambique advice
« on: October 16, 2013, 07:28:26 pm »
Hi Dogs

Going to Mozam for the first time in 2 weeks time (unfortunately in the 4x4 :-[), and would just like to get some general info from people who have gone over recently. Just for background information, we will be spending a few nights in Kosi Bay then travelling up to Inhambane, with a stop-over in Xai-Xai. Coming back we retrace our steps, except will be going via Swaziland through Namaacha gate, as I dont want to gamble on catching the Kosi gate before it closes. Just a few questions for those in the know:

1. Is it best to cross at Kosi and take that route via Maputo to Xai-Xai, or should we rather detour via Pongola through Swazi on the way up? (thus avoiding those southern sand roads, rather taking tar)

2. What are the border proceedings like? What documents should I expect to be given, stamped etc....as I know they like to issue fines on such buearocratic matters.

3. Can I get Meticas somewhere in Manguzi or should that be done at the border?

4. Anything important I haven't specifically asked about that would be worth mentioning....


Any info would be appreciated...really not keen to face undue struggles (accepting that this is Africa, and it is part of the fun)

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2013, 09:52:13 pm »
I have a house in Ponta, so maybe Im a bit biased.

I would go thru Kosi gate and head to Katemba for the ferry. The road is not bad and you are on the trip for an adventure. Distance is about 100km and will take u about 3 hours.

The ferry is also an experience.  Stop off at the fish market and have a meal in the restuarant behind the market. A real african experience! Xai xai is not that far to go.

I would also spend a day in ponta.

 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2013, 09:53:41 pm »
I will post more info tomorrow.
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2013, 10:01:43 pm »
Thanx!

How does the ferry work? does it have a schedule?

Will probably hit Kosi gate just after 7h when it opens....to give us sufficient time to do some exploring....and if there will be a nice lunch thats a bonus :biggrin:
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 09:59:04 am »
I have a house in Ponta, so maybe Im a bit biased.


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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2013, 10:58:56 am »
Keep this with you  O0
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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2013, 05:04:00 pm »
As promised, more advice on Mozambique

Firstly some general advice on travelling in Moz ...

Make sure your vehicle is 100% road worthy, the slightest issue will cause you countless fines/bribes.
When travelling from Maputo to Vilanculos in Aug (on a Sat) we passed 23 police stops (got two fines)

If travelling in a car;
Ensure you have two high visibility vests in your car.
Do not drive with any part of your body outside the vehicle.
Driver must wear shoes.
All people in the car to wear seat belts.
If towing, have a triangle on the front of the card and behind the trailer (on the right) and a ZAR sticker on the back.
No open alcohol in the vehicle (not even the passengers).
Driver to have passport and drivers license on hand. Some say you must present copies, but they seldom accept this and you need balls to stick to your guns.

Generally;
Stick to the speed limits. One km over the limit will result in a fine.
From what I can recall, 1 km/h over the limit = 1000 mets (about R330) fine .. 11 km over = R2000 fine and so on.
The officer will want a bribe ... they are trying to stamp this out by issuing the pamphlet below, but in reality, it is very difficult to follow this advice.



Advice about the Kosi Bay border crossing

This advice applies to the Kosi bay crossing only!
The border crossing is laid back and generally a breeze!
The border is approximately 630kms from Jo’burg and 460kms from Durban and is open 7 days a week (08h00 to 17h00).
Best you arrive at the border at least 15 before 17h00 to ensure your crossing.
Last chance to stock up is Mangusi (about 15km before the border)
Between the border and Maputo/Ponta a 4x4 vehicle (or 4x2 bakkie) is required due to the soft sandy roads.
Should you not have one; a border transfer to Ponta can be arranged. For the brave, you can catch a taxi to Maputo.
Taxis wait about 100 inside Mozambique.
Your vehicle can be left at the parking lot just before the border (on the left) at a charge of R30.00 per day.
The parking lot is privately run and secure.
You can not exchange Rands at the Kosi border, but Rands are welcomed in Ponta (exchange approx 3.3 Mets to R1).
Rands are generally accepted further north, but exchange rate is 3 Mets = R1.
From Maputo and north, You can pay for fuel using your Visa card.
Between the border and Maputo, fuel is available at Ponta and Bela Vista.

You will need:
3rd party insurance & temporary import papers (both obtainable at the Moz side of the border)
3rd party insurance cost R150.00 for your vehicle. Trailer will cost an additional R80.
You will be required to present both documents if stopped.
Car & trailer registration papers. If you do not have these, any document that proves your ownership of the vehicle you are driving will suffice (like a license renewal receipt)
A letter of permission from your vehicle insurance company stating that you may take your car into Mozambique and will still remain covered whilst there.
South African Passport holders DO NOT require visas. Other nationalities can purchase a visa at the border (last check it was +- R180), but it is better to arrange prior to departure.

Road conditions from Kosi border to Katemba are very doable. I know a chap who does regular trips in a corolla  ::)
From the border, keep left and follow the main road  >:D This is a bit of a joke as their are many branches in the road, but stick to the most used road (while keeping left).
The first 30 km is the worst, with deep sand in some sections.
The road improves from Salamanga. There is a permanent road block here. You need to produce drivers license and vehicle papers.
This road block is an attempt to stop the hijackings in SA (as this is only one bridge over the Maputo river going north).
Katemba is the southern access point for the ferry. Proceed to the market and park in the car que near the filling station.
Buy a ticket at the office next to the filling station (ask anyone, they will direct you to the office).
I forget the cost, but it is reasonable.
The ferry operates between 7am to 6pm and is an experience.
Depending on the time, stop at the Katemba hotel (+- 5km before Katemba market) and enjoy a 2M on the veranda over looking the bay.

On disembarking you have 2 choices, head north on the EN1 or take in the sites and smells of Maputo.
Two get to the EN1, follow this route ...


To experience the esplanade, keep right and follow the road north with bay immediately on the right.
The fish market in just off the road, next to a Petromoc on the left.
If the market restaurant is not your thing, proceed  bit further north and stop for a meal at the iconic Costa do Sol (09258-1450115) which is right next to the road.

EN1 up north is as good as you get. we traveled at night in Aug'13 and I would say that it is as safe as travelling in SA.
Having said that, we only went as far as Vilanculos.


« Last Edit: October 17, 2013, 05:13:16 pm by KTM Kev »
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2013, 05:38:58 pm »
Ktm kev! Thanks for all that info. Also traveling to mos end november....

The visa is a bit more tho,last time my wife paid R540,not sure if prices differ from countries.
Also its important to keep certified copies of all sa documents....just to be on the safe side.

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2013, 06:20:08 pm »
Shot KTM Kev...the info will come in most helpful

 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2013, 07:33:58 pm »
Most things have been covered above but (unless I missed them):

Vehicle must carry two emergency triangles
If the vehicle is financed you must have a Cross-Border letter from the bank
Do not take photographs of government buildings or guys in uniform - sometimes very sticky with this in Maputo

To reiterate
When driving in traffic - "expect the unexpected". Generally 90% of drivers are OK but the 10% are out of control.
NEVER drive with any smell of alcohol on your breath, you will spend hours at police station waiting tests
Stick to speed limits no matter what the locals are doing.
Traffic police (navy pants & white shirts) are theoretically the only ones allowed to stop you for a traffic offence BUT.... well everyone wants a Christmas bonus from some SA tourist
If you are stopped stay polite and try to understand exactly what they have stopped you for. Often they are taking a chance on getting a coke or money for a coke.
If you drive at night be very aware that you may (will) meet vehicles with no lights.

If you need any help in Matola/Maputo area you can give me a shout on +258843034961

Enjoy the trip

You can never get lost - you just reach a different destination.
Every road has to lead somewhere - even if it is a dead-end.
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2013, 10:15:22 am »
Ok...one more question...do I need an international driving permit (the one from the AA) to drive in Moz? Or can I just take my SA one?
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2013, 10:53:00 am »
Ok...one more question...do I need an international driving permit (the one from the AA) to drive in Moz? Or can I just take my SA one?

SA one works
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2013, 02:56:32 pm »
Ok...one more question...do I need an international driving permit (the one from the AA) to drive in Moz? Or can I just take my SA one?

SA one works


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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 11:40:10 am »
Just keep an eye on the news. Been hearing that Renamo is causing trouble up north in Moz - Beira - Sofala, this province is north of Inhambane.

www.mg.co.za/article/2013-10-23-mozambique-wants-to-avoid-war     

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24615549 
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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 10:31:06 pm »
I am planning doing the Kozi bay to punto for a day drip on my bike, anything further that has not been addressed in this post that we should be careful of?
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2013, 05:26:15 pm »
I am planning doing the Kozi bay to punto for a day drip on my bike, anything further that has not been addressed in this post that we should be careful of?


The sand!
 

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2013, 05:06:42 pm »
I rode through from Beira, don't go over the speed limit at any time when in towns, maximum fine they can give you  was at that time 1000 mitre. Have fun!
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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2013, 04:58:48 pm »
Just keep an eye on the news. Been hearing that Renamo is causing trouble up north in Moz - Beira - Sofala, this province is north of Inhambane.

www.mg.co.za/article/2013-10-23-mozambique-wants-to-avoid-war     

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24615549 

The Renamo presence is mainly in the Sofalo province of Mozam, which is North of Vilanculos. We did ride through there in July without the military escorts, but it was a bit creepy seeing soldiers with their AK47s along the road and mostly at the bridges. Will be heading to Sodwana/Kosi/Ponta next week for a bit of a reccie

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Re: Mozambique advice
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2013, 07:57:24 am »
OK....so just got back from Moz yesteday and thought I would give feedback.

No issues at the borderposts (Kosi/Goba/Pongola)
Roads are good. But the road to Catembe was a mess after the rains
Alot of roadblocks, especially north of Maputo. Didn't get stopped at any of them
Alot of election activity the last few days in the towns, but no negative experiences...to be safe just stick some Frelimo posters on your car ;)
Only had one fine/bribe incident with a traffic cop using a rigged radar that claimed I was doing 87kmh in a 60khm zone (I was doing 60)...just had to pay up as he clearly had everything well planned....even stepped out into the road just as I rounded a curve, as if he knew I was coming >:(
The Moz people are great swindlers at the markets, but I figured that they need the pocket change more than I do...was fun though

All in a cool experience, but I have to admit that I wouldn't drive up without being in a convoy again...very stressful and frustrating to do it solo the first time.
One factor here is the lack of signs indicating that the speed limit is raised after a town....sort of a guessing game, and this is where I found all the speed traps to be located. Used the signs in the opposite direction mostly, but sometimes there is a "100" sign FAR out of town and they apparently like using these zones to trap.
I have attached the Road Code of Moz...print it and take it along on the trip. They are obliged to have a copy in their cars (in Portugese) and if they want to fine you they have to quote you the Act number etc....so it helps to argue a point when they take a chance. Note that all fines have been standardised along a sliding scale....our trickster started with a 8000mets fine :lol8: when it was supposed to be 2000 so be careful.

Thanx for all the advice

Oh, regarding the Renamo thing...all travel north of the Save River is dodgy. The Dutch embassy has warned its expats in Moz to not travel north and most of the Saffers told us to stay below Vilanculos. There have also been a series of kidnappings for ransom in Maputo, seemingly at random not targeting anybody in particular.

 

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