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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #100 on: January 28, 2014, 05:14:31 pm »
Do not forget the cost of doing one of their 'qualifying rally courses' - not sure where they will be held. Also I think the onboard water will be at least 3 litres compulsory. A specced first aid kit also rings a bell and probably includes space blanket.
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #101 on: January 28, 2014, 06:05:08 pm »
No grass growing under the Amageza 2014 entries  :deal:

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #102 on: January 28, 2014, 07:39:19 pm »
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This is great! Does this mean we will get to read a legendary RR about this as well?

I'm hoping I'm going to have a bland, untroubled (and yet no doubt tough) passage to the finish. Not worthy of a ride report. Haha. Fat chance!

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #103 on: January 29, 2014, 08:35:07 am »
Do not forget the cost of doing one of their 'qualifying rally courses' - not sure where they will be held. Also I think the onboard water will be at least 3 litres compulsory. A specced first aid kit also rings a bell and probably includes space blanket.

Rally Course: Won't be to steep. The idea is to get you to have a better understanding of what you are getting yourself into. This is a requirement of the Consumer Act. I can take your entry fee and you will fall out inside 1km into the SS, or I can give you a better understanding of what you are getting yourself into, and ensure you have a fighting chance of completing the stage, and race.

Water One litre in a hard shelled protected container physically mounted to your bike. This is so if you go over your bars and burst your hydra-pack, then you have at least some water to survive with. A litre is the bare minimum. A incident can very quickly become a accident in 40deg with no water.

As I have said before. Email me with your q's. Its not possible for me to monitor all the forums around the world.

If you are really interested in doing the race, pay your Competitor Entry Fee and get access to the rules, etc.

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #104 on: January 29, 2014, 11:01:02 am »
Alex

How big are the (rented) trackers we are putting on the bikes? Trying to work out whether a rally-lite setup will handle the gear...

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #105 on: January 29, 2014, 12:35:38 pm »
Maybe the tracker can go in your backpack  :thumleft:
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #106 on: January 29, 2014, 12:59:17 pm »
Maybe the tracker can go in your backpack  :thumleft:

I hope so, not keen to have more nonsense on my bars.
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #107 on: January 29, 2014, 01:35:34 pm »
Heard from Alex - it can! So rally-lite setup with just road book, GPS and one ICO could do the job plenty well for the Amageza...

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #108 on: January 31, 2014, 05:47:50 am »
Is it too early to start getting excited.  :peepwall:

and I'm not even riding  . :imaposer:

Well done guys , am following everyone's prepping progress with interest.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #109 on: January 31, 2014, 08:43:06 am »
Question for you experts:
what is better - higher or lower handlebars?
I am short at 1.72m, want to know do I put the steering damper over or under?
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #110 on: January 31, 2014, 08:44:11 am »
Question for you experts:
what is better - higher or lower handlebars?
I am short at 1.72m, want to know do I put the steering damper over or under?
I would say have the bars the height that you are comfy with and then work around that
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #111 on: January 31, 2014, 09:19:05 am »
Question for you experts:
what is better - higher or lower handlebars?
I am short at 1.72m, want to know do I put the steering damper over or under?
I would say have the bars the height that you are comfy with and then work around that

currently at standard height with no damper. it feels a little low when standing, maybe its just me being used to an Adv bike. What is better for the long distances?
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #112 on: January 31, 2014, 09:23:20 am »
An underbar damper position is safer in as much that it does not take the family jewels with it if you go over the bars  :o. Further the control arm is shorter and inevitably more direct and reduces possibility of flex. Aesthetically neater. Some may argue it is less accessible but generally the adjustment you do on the fly once set up is pretty minimal - a few clicks here or there in my experience.

Regarding bars - you do not want to hang on them and generally the lower the more control (look at MX bikes) - keeps weight forward. As such you are probably lucky to be short as further issues start when standing. This is where one is tempted to add risers for comfort if you are taller but inevitably at the expense of handling (I know as this is my dilemma). If an underbar damper setup raises your bars slightly it is not normally a big problem. Also you get bars in different sweeps and heights so you could then fit a lower bar of necessary if you feel the OEM's make the whole setup too high (I did this with my HP2). You want a bar that allows you to feel comfortable in terms of not being stretched outward or inward (chest dimesion will determine) and adjusted forward or backward so you are not over reaching. Pronation of wrists must be comfortable and not bent back too far otherwise you can not get your elbows up = which is what you want (in many ways the straighter the more your elbows will rise). Try a few bars on friends bikes - often they will have the model and specs printed on them. If going for aftermarket buy the best you can afford - Pro-Taper and Renthal are very good.
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #113 on: January 31, 2014, 09:31:03 am »
 :thumleft: a lot of greek but I think I follow. with the under bar damper my bar will rise +-50mm, maybe to much for me?
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #114 on: January 31, 2014, 09:32:15 am »
apologies for the technical highjack!
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #115 on: January 31, 2014, 10:30:17 am »
:thumleft: a lot of greek but I think I follow. with the under bar damper my bar will rise +-50mm, maybe to much for me?

What bike we talking? I think you may find that it is a good compromise if you are feeling a bit bent over when standing (give you a bit of rise without overdoing it). and ja probably need to move this to Technical section.
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #116 on: January 31, 2014, 11:17:17 am »
:thumleft: a lot of greek but I think I follow. with the under bar damper my bar will rise +-50mm, maybe to much for me?

What bike we talking? I think you may find that it is a good compromise if you are feeling a bit bent over when standing (give you a bit of rise without overdoing it). and ja probably need to move this to Technical section.
it is also pretty interesting to have here
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #117 on: January 31, 2014, 03:39:25 pm »
Interesting comments Big Dom :thumleft:

I would like understand why do you say having higher bars affects handling? :)

I found that having the bars slightly low made me feel like I was falling over the front, with too much weight on my hands. I felt more in control the higher the bars went.
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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2014, 06:26:37 pm »
Interesting comments Big Dom :thumleft:

I would like understand why do you say having higher bars affects handling? :)

I found that having the bars slightly low made me feel like I was falling over the front, with too much weight on my hands. I felt more in control the higher the bars went.

I tend to agree with BB. When on my training bike with lower handlebars, my arms seem to get more tired. On the 690 with raised handle-bars, this never occurs. It seems that if the handle-bars is higher, one can stand up straighter and lean forward, thus taking some strain of the arms hanging onto the bars as some of the acceleration force is absorbed by your legs on the pegs.
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 (Kalahari Safari): Entries Open
« Reply #119 on: January 31, 2014, 06:49:00 pm »
look, I'm not criticizing - I actually don't know and am seeking advice here. :scratch:
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