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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #220 on: December 27, 2014, 07:33:53 pm »
Reading this makes me want to try the Amageza.

Anyone ever done it on a 300  :ricky:
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #221 on: December 27, 2014, 07:56:33 pm »
Man, what a good RR!
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #222 on: December 28, 2014, 07:08:52 am »
Awesome morning read this, done I am looking for an amageza machine asap!! Looks like a bucket list event for me ! Great RR


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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #223 on: December 28, 2014, 08:28:53 am »
Reading this makes me want to try the Amageza.

Anyone ever done it on a 300  :ricky:

Ek werk aan n plan,wil dit volgende jaar doen op n 300  2T
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #224 on: December 28, 2014, 10:58:15 am »
Reading this makes me want to try the Amageza.

Anyone ever done it on a 300  :ricky:

Ek werk aan n plan,wil dit volgende jaar doen op n 300  2T
what is the fuel consumption on the 2T?
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #225 on: December 28, 2014, 10:08:07 pm »
Reading this makes me want to try the Amageza.

Anyone ever done it on a 300  :ricky:

Ek werk aan n plan,wil dit volgende jaar doen op n 300  2T

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #226 on: December 28, 2014, 10:17:35 pm »
Reading this makes me want to try the Amageza.

Anyone ever done it on a 300  :ricky:

Ek werk aan n plan,wil dit volgende jaar doen op n 300  2T
what is the fuel consumption on the 2T?


Cant be that bad. My 250 2t is relatively light.
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #227 on: December 29, 2014, 07:25:18 am »
I know the sentiment has been expressed before but I hope SA rally will not end up being guys just throwing a LR tank or Rotopak, RB and iPhone on a plastic   :peepwall:
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #228 on: December 29, 2014, 07:37:20 am »
Reading this makes me want to try the Amageza.

Anyone ever done it on a 300  :ricky:

Ek werk aan n plan,wil dit volgende jaar doen op n 300  2T

Your biggest challenge is going to get a 300 2 stroke fully road legal and registered on Natis - and properly - with papers, number plates, license disc, etc

Less is more and weight will always be your biggest enemy BUT rallying is not a long offroad race - we have those in this country - rallying is a completely different animal - I believe it is a real thinking man's (or woman's) game - proper preparation in every single aspect is key

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #229 on: December 29, 2014, 08:58:32 am »
I know the sentiment has been expressed before but I hope SA rally will not end up being guys just throwing a LR tank or Rotopak, RB and iPhone on a plastic   :peepwall:

Why not? Spending a crazy amount of money on a pukka rally bike for one 5 day race per year seems a bit excessive, to me at least.

It's about racing and being there, not posing. Many of the other international races also attract entries like this, only the Dakar is really different with almost all the bikes being "proper" rally bikes. I suspect due to the distances and the effort and money involved getting there, it makes it worth it to invest in a real rally bike.
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #230 on: December 29, 2014, 09:13:13 am »
Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that everyone spends on a RR bike. I am all for rallye light and think this is the way even the Dakar bikes are going to some extent. I just think that guys need to think twice before believing their small 2T plastics can do 5 day+ rallies with ease. Sure the more accessible one can make the sport the better for it to grow in SA.
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #231 on: December 29, 2014, 09:20:50 am »
Each to his own

My budget for a rally bike is 50k all in - not because I can't afford to spend more but because I don't want to - I have 2 other bikes that don't get used enough as it is

I have bought a used KTM 525 for 32k and already spent 2k on sprockets/chains and lic and reg in my name

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #232 on: December 29, 2014, 09:40:29 am »
Jip, doing it on a 2T will be pushing it. Would love to see it done though.

GJ, how will you mix fuel at the petrol stations? Mixing 20 l in a 2 l bottle doesn't sound like fun.
 

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #233 on: December 29, 2014, 09:52:01 am »
Reading this makes me want to try the Amageza.

Anyone ever done it on a 300  :ricky:

Ek werk aan n plan,wil dit volgende jaar doen op n 300  2T

Your biggest challenge is going to get a 300 2 stroke fully road legal and registered on Natis - and properly - with papers, number plates, license disc, etc

Less is more and weight will always be your biggest enemy BUT rallying is not a long offroad race - we have those in this country - rallying is a completely different animal - I believe it is a real thinking man's (or woman's) game - proper preparation in every single aspect is key



Surely you can license it the same way it was done with the 450s and other plastics - 'properly'  ;)

Of all the bikes I'd take to a rally, a 2T would be my last choice - it will have absolutely no advantage anywhere. Like you say, a rally is so much more than a bike and an ability to ride it.
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #234 on: December 29, 2014, 10:00:03 am »
It all depends on the "class" of the vehicle and how it is registered on our Natis system

If it is registered as a purely off-road vehicle then it cannot get a legal number plate and license disc and be used on a public road

Once a vehicle is registered as such it is almost impossible to change its class of use - it needs to be done  from new
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #235 on: December 29, 2014, 10:34:44 am »
Actually 2 strokes have finished the Dakar.

in 1980 2 Vespas finished:
 
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Not that I would recommend these for the amageza! :imaposer:


Luis Belaustegui #150, a 48 year-old professor from the University of Missouri-Kansas City Living the Dakar Dream, campaigned and finished on a KTM 150XC 2-stroke! :hello2:

He is an absolute legend: After trying for 3 years he finally got the the finish of the Dakar in 2013. He also regularly changed pistons in the desert, came in last just about everyday, and spent a night and the following rest day stuck in dunes with "his mistress of the desert" working on changing a piston (he kept a spare in his backpack) before arriving in the bivouac at 4pm, some 36 hours after the start of the 600km stage, and two hours before the cutoff time.















Gerard Barbazant made a career (several times IIRC) of trying to get a 125 EXC to the finish...  he also used up a lot of pistons, cylinders etc. in the process...

Another guy from France named - Luc Grajwoda (spelling not quite sure) - made a habit out of riding a monocoque framed KX 500 creation in the Dakar and various other rallies in the early to mid nineties...

The thing used to vibrate that much that it often split/fractured the welds on the chassis and aluminium fuel tanks/subframe construction... and his eyeballs were still going up and down a half hour after he climbed off the thing at the bivouac of a night...  


Bottom line is this: You dont have to be crazy to try and do any rally on a 2 stroke, but it certainly helps!   :lol8: :imaposer: :spitcoffee:
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #236 on: December 29, 2014, 10:55:43 am »
5 of those 2 stroke vespas started mind you
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #237 on: December 29, 2014, 11:53:11 am »
Ja and someone did the Roof on a CB750  ::)  Crazy/Amageza helps.  :biggrin:
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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #238 on: December 30, 2014, 10:18:37 am »
I regard you with legend status, Mr Kamanya!

I also reckon that jumping that unexpected erosion donga was some heroic sh!t, man. Those situations where BIG BALLS are required and you have -0.05 seconds to make a call . . . "sphincter moments", as BlueBull2007 calls them . . . they bring out a rider's true colours. I can't say that I come out of those with valour too often. You, on the other hand . . . bliksem!

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Re: Amageza 2014 with a Jagsding
« Reply #239 on: December 30, 2014, 11:09:16 am »

I'm not saying you are Batman...

Shatman more like!

Thanks for the compliment nontheless.
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