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DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« on: February 25, 2015, 10:02:51 am »
So I'm serious about buying a DR650 from a forum member. Doing some homework on the bike, but I cannot figure out if there is a difference between the DR650 and the DR650SE.
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 10:04:21 am »
Oh, this is a 2011 model.
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2015, 10:05:53 am »
Other than the spelling not much...  :deal:

As far as I know all DR650's made since 1996 are SE's.
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2015, 03:02:24 pm »
all post 96 DR's are SE's as far as I know
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 03:28:20 pm »
So I'm serious about buying a DR650 from a forum member. Doing some homework on the bike, but I cannot figure out if there is a difference between the DR650 and the DR650SE.

You did not even Google before asking the question..........did you ?   :3some:  :spitcoffee:

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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 04:24:13 pm »
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 04:48:31 pm »
all post 96 DR's are SE's as far as I know
Correct!

No starter clutch for '98 and some '99 models.

Plastic headlight surround design change circa 2000.

Otherwise mechanical identical.


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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 04:53:17 pm »
You're asking to many questions...go buy the bike! Love the DR 650 SE so much...I have 2 of them!😀


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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 07:42:34 am »
You're asking to many questions...go buy the bike! Love the DR 650 SE so much...I have 2 of them!😀


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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2015, 08:23:48 am »
At some point the base gasket was also changed to a metal one from what I have heard
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 08:35:14 am »
all post 96 DR's are SE's as far as I know
Correct!

No starter clutch for '98 and some '99 models.

Plastic headlight surround design change circa 2000.

Otherwise mechanical identical.


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No starter clutch issues on the 97 - http://dr650.wikia.com/wiki/Potential_problems_to_be_aware_of



 

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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 03:34:42 pm »
all post 96 DR's are SE's as far as I know
Correct!

No starter clutch for '98 and some '99 models.

Plastic headlight surround design change circa 2000.

Otherwise mechanical identical.


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No starter clutch issues on the 97 - http://dr650.wikia.com/wiki/Potential_problems_to_be_aware_of




Behoort nie te wees nie.

Die DR 650 SE wat Bensien het, het ek by 'n ou oom in KZN gekoop. Dit was ook 'n 1997 model.

Sommer op die oom se grasperk die fiets op sy sy neegele en die magneto cover afgehaal om seker te maak.

My 1/4" drive socket stelletjie met 8mm socket, en 'n ligte stampie op die cover om die gasket se seel te breek!

Hy was reg!

By die huis net 'n nuwe gasket opgesit.

My eie '99 model moes ek die upgrade doen. Baie moolas, maar die moeite werd omdat die fiets baie mooi was.

Ek het 'n 2007 model ook.

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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2015, 04:29:06 pm »
So I'm serious about buying a DR650 from a forum member. Doing some homework on the bike, but I cannot figure out if there is a difference between the DR650 and the DR650SE.

You did not even Google before asking the question..........did you ?   :3some:  :spitcoffee:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_DR650

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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2015, 04:35:47 pm »
Oh, this is a 2011 model.


DR650 various models (R - RE - RS - RSE) VIN vehicle codes SP41 ... SP45 up to and including 1995 year models.

DR650SE (SP46) from 1996 onwards.


Be careful with second hand imports and what the papers say about what year they are. In the SA papers is the year of first registration in SA NOT the year of manufacture. Rather refer to the VIN vehicle codes or the thread mentioned above for ID
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2015, 05:56:28 pm »
Mine was made in 2004 but only registered in 2006

Nearly to scared to ask 8), but.................are there any major differences between the USA spec and what was imported officially by Suzuki into RSA?
 

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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2015, 08:59:56 am »
USA spec is recognisable by ugly soup bowl sized tail lights and mph speedo.
Else they are the same.

Re the 1998 & early 1999 year model grenades: It is NOT the starter clutch but the (missing) starter gear torque limiter which is the problem. It is very easy and quick to check if your bike is affected. Bikes without the torque limiter are extremely rare since the solid gears were replaced by Suzuki under warranty / free of charge as long as the bikes were still serviced by the agents.
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2015, 09:02:01 am »
At some point the base gasket was also changed to a metal one from what I have heard
2004 afaik. The later base gaskets are easily recognisable by the rivet tabs protruding from the engine. They did anyway not really fix the problem since most leakages actually originated from the TCT and not the base.
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2015, 07:37:58 pm »
What is the difference between a starter clutch and starter torque limiter?

I have/had one of the rare ones without the clutch/torque limiter.

The old starter is also different with a shorter splined shaft, that doesn't catch the 4th gear of the torque limiter.

Jesse from Kientech does the upgrade retaining the old starter.

The old starter also doesn't have the shaft for the small carrier bearing at the end of the splined shaft. The opening for the bearing is in the casing though, with the grove for the circlip.


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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2015, 09:01:06 am »
Your starter gear train has a one way clutch which sits behind the flywheel. It allows the crankshaft to "overtake" the starter gear train as soon as the engine starts and starter stops.
The torque limiter is usually integrated into one of the gears between starter motor and starter clutch. It prevents excessive torque from being transferred from the crank to the starter if the engine backfires (as in crank rotation reverses, not just a fart from the silencer).
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Re: DR650 versus DR650SE Is there a difference?
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2015, 10:17:17 pm »
Your starter gear train has a one way clutch which sits behind the flywheel. It allows the crankshaft to "overtake" the starter gear train as soon as the engine starts and starter stops.
The torque limiter is usually integrated into one of the gears between starter motor and starter clutch. It prevents excessive torque from being transferred from the crank to the starter if the engine backfires (as in crank rotation reverses, not just a fart from the silencer).
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