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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2015, 12:39:00 pm »
The story about over tightening the 2 cover bolts is total BS. When you put the filter into the airbox have a careful  look at what the long sides of the filter does, it bows in the middle without even putting the cover on. This is because the airbox is finished off so poorly. The edges of the airbox need to be cleaned up so that filter drops in without bowing at all  :thumleft:
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2015, 01:03:02 pm »
Same thing Louis at Trax told me when I picked up my bike yesterday. Mine had dust in the throttle bodies and valves were out of spec. Bike is also using a bit of oil. Mine is fitted with a unifilter and I am super slack with maintenance. ~13000 hard kms on the clock. I was advised to replace the airbox
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You don't seem too fazed by it?

I'm not. Partly my fault. Keep in mind that about 10 000kms of the mileage was racing and race training. For the type of riding you do, would you be upset if you had to do a top end on a 450 at 400 hours?
Well, 400 hours is a decent amount of use from a 450 and is way past the 50 hour factory recommendation, even though it's not race conditions.
Said 450's also only cost ~R35K <-Cheap to replace

At 66Km/h average speed, 10 000Km == 150 hours use
I would rage a bit if its already using oil at this point, but I'm a cheapskate that's used to Japanese reliability
« Last Edit: August 20, 2015, 01:23:18 pm by wolf skaap »
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2015, 01:23:31 pm »
The story about over tightening the 2 cover bolts is total BS. When you put the filter into the airbox have a careful  look at what the long sides of the filter does, it bows in the middle without even putting the cover on. This is because the airbox is finished off so poorly. The edges of the airbox need to be cleaned up so that filter drops in without bowing at all  :thumleft:

Ok I don't have a stock filter. It was one of the first things changed on the bike

Same thing Louis at Trax told me when I picked up my bike yesterday. Mine had dust in the throttle bodies and valves were out of spec. Bike is also using a bit of oil. Mine is fitted with a unifilter and I am super slack with maintenance. ~13000 hard kms on the clock. I was advised to replace the airbox
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You don't seem too fazed by it?

I'm not. Partly my fault. Keep in mind that about 10 000kms of the mileage was racing and race training. For the type of riding you do, would you be upset if you had to do a top end on a 450 at 400 hours?
Well, 400 hours is a decent amount of use from a 450 and is way past the 50 hour factory recommendation, even though it's not race conditions.
Said 450's also only cost ~R35K <-Cheap to replace

At 66Km/h average speed, 10 000Km == 150 hours use
I would rage a bit if I spent R130K+ on a bike which is already using oil after 150 hours.

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I'm not trying to troll or stirr

450 new is about the same price as a new 690 is it not?

When I say it uses a bit of oil, it's maybe 500ml in 10000kms  6000kms. I am sure oil usage will be minimal to none under normal riding.

EDIT: Sorry got the mileage wrong, forgot about the previous service
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2015, 01:30:56 pm »
I don't have the stock filter either, it's that dual cyclinder foam type jobbies.
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2015, 01:32:11 pm »
I don't have the stock filter either, it's that dual cyclinder foam type jobbies.

Mine is one of those single pad type jobbies. God, we're bike maintenace fuckin experts us two  :imaposer:
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2015, 01:48:09 pm »
450 new is about the same price as a new 690 is it not?
They are about 20~30K shy of the 690's price but I will buy a 450 2nd hand any day (have had plenty)
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2015, 01:50:47 pm »
450 new is about the same price as a new 690 is it not?
They are about 20~30K shy of the 690's price but I will buy a 450 2nd hand any day (have had plenty)

450 KTM is 100k. I agree on buying second hand 450s, especially red ones
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2015, 01:54:22 pm »
450 new is about the same price as a new 690 is it not?
They are about 20~30K shy of the 690's price but I will buy a 450 2nd hand any day (have had plenty)

450 KTM is 100k. I agree on buying second hand 450s, especially red ones
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2015, 02:12:41 pm »
I don't have the stock filter either, it's that dual cyclinder foam type jobbies.

Mine is one of those single pad type jobbies. God, we're bike maintenace fuckin experts us two  :imaposer:

 :imaposer: Maybe not experts yet but sure as hell better than the clowns in the KTM workshop  ;)
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2015, 05:16:15 am »
I had dust in the airbox when I first checked it at about 400 miles.  Stock paper filter - no grease around seal.

I changed to the Australian Uni with a nice seam of waterproof wheel bearing grease around the rim seal.

No dust since.
Are you speaking about this one?


I must admit that had it not been for these incidents, I would have been on a 690 today.  :-\


Would any of you feel comfortable buying a 690 2nd hand?

I wasn't.


That is the filter I've used and had very good luck - no dust in the airbox what so ever.  I did use a nice bead of waterproof grease around the perimeter of the filter.

Below is an email I received from AUS UNI folks - they are coming out with a prefilter for the 690 - a great thing for those of us who run in the dusty puckerbrush!  I've had good experienced ordering from them to the US.


Thanks for your email. Sorry for the delay in reply. I have been out of the office. Currently we donít have a pre-filter for this filter. We are looking at developing one in the very near future. I hope we have it available in the next 6 weeks. Please keep an eye on our website for its release.

Regards Myles Gooch

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UNIFILTER AUSTRALIA
5/373 Manns Rd, West Gosford NSW 2250
PH: +61 2 4322 2007  FAX: +61 2 4322 3007
E: myles@uniflow.com.au
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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2016, 12:48:10 pm »
I also had a ordeal with my air filter. The KTM mac did not replace the filter properly the first time so I found very fine dust in the air box.

I replaced the filter myself and coated the inside of the air box with air filter oil and after a 1400km of dusty riding I still found very fine dust in the air box.

I now ordered a off road filter from KTM, after they told me they are now using grease to seal the paper filter.
This is almost as good as admission of guilt that the OEM product is not of good quality.
 

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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2016, 03:24:28 pm »
Just opened my airbox.
Found  dust inside the airbox.
3000km on stock filter.
Looks like the filter does not seal properly.
What filter does the amageza boys use?




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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2016, 09:24:01 am »
I ordered a foam Unifilter from off road cycles(getting it in 24hours) and a foam filter from KTM(still waiting for it a week later). You can get Bel Ray waterproof grease a trac mac to seal stock filter.
 

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Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2016, 09:41:43 am »
Dit is die binnekant van die airbox
 

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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2016, 10:40:48 am »
I also spoke to KTM regarding this and they are going to check valve clearance and do a compression test with the 10 000km service. Just to see if the motor did not get damaged from the dust.
 

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Re: Ktm 690 airfilter
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2016, 02:41:03 pm »
I ordered a foam Unifilter from off road cycles(getting it in 24hours) and a foam filter from KTM(still waiting for it a week later). You can get Bel Ray waterproof grease a trac mac to seal stock filter.

The spray on filter oil work the best. Less mess
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