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Offline GraZer

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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2016, 10:50:29 am »
Personally I find the compass very useful as the ICO is useless when stationary.
I leave my GPS on the compass page and use it to confirm CAP directions when stationary.
 

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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2016, 10:58:36 am »
Just avoid the stationary bit  :thumleft:
 

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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2016, 11:36:45 am »
Personally I find the compass very useful as the ICO is useless when stationary.
I leave my GPS on the compass page and use it to confirm CAP directions when stationary.

That's strange. What ICO are you running? On my ICO cap it stays fixed on whatever heading I was last doing when I was moving.
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2016, 11:39:11 am »
Kobus, my other ICO broke so I used the one with my CAP for the odo, and ended up using my Etrex 20 (or10?) for the cap headings. It was hard to read but doable for me on SS 4 but may have been part of the reason why I binned it in the dunes! ;D Up to that point I began to convince myself that it was even better than the ICO because for a change I started watching my speed on the device rather than on my ICO, in the speed control zones. :P
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2016, 11:56:09 am »
BlueBull2007, thanks,  but as a complete newbie to navigation, I'm actually not even sure I follow what you're saying.  Is it the 20x or the 30x then?  :lol8:
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2016, 12:01:13 pm »
If yo want to save money, get the 20.

The compass might be useful if you are looking at it while on the move, but as soon as you are stationary it does not work well. Its easier to see you heading on the compass feature while moving that looking at a little part of the screen on the 20.

But Im not convinced its worth the extra cost for that.

In iother words, if its easily affordable, go for the 30, otherwise rather save your cash.  All Etrex's are really good instruments.
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2016, 12:05:44 pm »
If yo want to save money, get the 20.

The compass might be useful if you are looking at it while on the move, but as soon as you are stationary it does not work well. Its easier to see you heading on the compass feature while moving that looking at a little part of the screen on the 20.

But Im not convinced its worth the extra cost for that.

In iother words, if its easily affordable, go for the 30, otherwise rather save your cash.  All Etrex's are really good instruments.

Thank you kindly, I'm going for the 20.  :thumleft:
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2016, 12:07:58 pm »
Cool, please shout if you need any other help, road books and naviagtion is not that hectic, provided you actually read it and follow it. :deal:

There quite about about this kind of thing in the various amageza buildup threads you can check out, and be sure to follow the Dakar thread as well for lots of tips and info. :thumleft:
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2016, 12:53:37 pm »
Cool, please shout if you need any other help, road books and naviagtion is not that hectic, provided you actually read it and follow it. :deal:

There quite about about this kind of thing in the various amageza buildup threads you can check out, and be sure to follow the Dakar thread as well for lots of tips and info. :thumleft:

Thanks BB, I have many questions, but will open a new thread for that.  The ou manne of the game is gonna get die bliksem in with me opening up this thread the whole time and seeing my newbie questions.   :thumleft:
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2016, 05:11:07 pm »
GPS is way less accurate than a good CAP. I used my gps for headings (didn't have budget for a cap) and it's dodgy to say the least. As a backup it's not useless
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2016, 10:59:56 pm »
Not so sure about that, GPS and an ICO CAP are one and the same thing ;D
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2016, 05:19:42 am »
Not so sure about that, GPS and an ICO CAP are one and the same thing ;D

Well maybe it was just mine then because my direction could vary as much as 20+ degrees while going in a straight line. Difficult to hit that split at 308 degrees in the middle of nowhere when that's the case  :lol8:
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2016, 07:43:39 am »
Thats crazy!? And its was an ICO CAP?

Seems you and GraZer had the same issue? :scratch:
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2016, 07:56:19 am »
No I used my garmin GPS compass for heading. I was refering to the discussion on whether having the compass on the eTrex30 is worth it
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2016, 08:09:49 am »
No I used my garmin GPS compass for heading. I was refering to the discussion on whether having the compass on the eTrex30 is worth it

silly question maybe but was ur GPS set to true north and COMPASS heading and not magnetic?
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2016, 08:16:48 am »
Not so sure about that, GPS and an ICO CAP are one and the same thing ;D

Well maybe it was just mine then because my direction could vary as much as 20+ degrees while going in a straight line. Difficult to hit that split at 308 degrees in the middle of nowhere when that's the case  :lol8:

Was thinking the same thing bonova.

Remember CAP is COG, ie: Course Over Ground, and can only be derived from a GPS accurately, as it takes into account your last position before the current ident. If you set your GPS to Magnetic, it will show you COG corrected for Magnetic Variation. In South Africa that can be anything from +14 to +22 degrees West. If you have a good GPS with a Magnetic Sensor, it will show you Magnetic Heading. Then you can have some Magnetic Deviation to content with. Anything electric in your wiring harness in close proximate will cause the magnetic reading to differ. Hence the need for a compass swing in aircraft with a deviation card under you compass.
 

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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2016, 08:28:25 am »
I don't recall but thanks for the advice  :thumleft:

I'll fit a CAP in future if only for ease of reading vs trying to see it on the GPS.
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2016, 05:34:31 pm »
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2016, 02:26:26 pm »
Hi,  I know questions are not considered daft, but it is feeling one gets. So here it is: Do the lite ride the same route as rallye. The fuel requirement tells me no. Have rb holder and gps62 (non compliant me thinks), but no ico or fuel range. Maybe sell rb and ride lite version. Only problem if I want to do Amageza again. How different is lite version.
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Re: 2017 West Coast Baja: The Race is ON!!!
« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2016, 09:24:43 pm »
Hi,  I know questions are not considered daft, but it is feeling one gets. So here it is: Do the lite ride the same route as rallye. The fuel requirement tells me no. Have rb holder and gps62 (non compliant me thinks), but no ico or fuel range. Maybe sell rb and ride lite version. Only problem if I want to do Amageza again. How different is lite version.

Lite do some sections on the same route.  If it gets technical due to dangers etc etc the lites will do an 'easier' section.  It is mostly a safety issue due to the limited info available on the GPS only. (Roadbook can give meter by meter info so the rider stays on course.)

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