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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2017, 08:00:03 am »
Hi All,
Do any of you guys have the same problem?
All my previous trips on my new 2017 GSA was done alone. Yesterday my wife join me the first time on the LC to J-Bay for a breakfast. It was quite warm here in PE and the OBC shows 31deg.
On my solo rides I did feel quite a lot of heat on my lower right hand side leg but I thought it was just the CAT that was doing it but after yesterday I am not so sure about it. This only happens with highway speed of 120 and higher. My wife complain that her right leg was burning and I feel that even the right hand side grab rail was getting hot.

I found this on the Web: http://hardtxrider.blogspot.co.za/2016/07/gsa-right-side-heat-issue.html?m=1

Euro 4... these people trying to save the world. The leaner the fueling (close to 14.7:1 air/fuel), the more heat. The only way to alleviate (if true) is to add a power commander and enrich the mixture. That, or they change the fuel map at BMW, but then as said, it won't be Euro 4 compliant anymore.

If I were you, I'd go to BMW SA and basically tell them to load a different map if possible. Euro 4 does not apply to SA!

If that fails, I'd recommend this instead of power commander: http://sales.nightrider.com/AF-XIED-for-BMW-R1200_p_59.html
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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2017, 05:04:00 pm »
Hi All,
Do any of you guys have the same problem?
All my previous trips on my new 2017 GSA was done alone. Yesterday my wife join me the first time on the LC to J-Bay for a breakfast. It was quite warm here in PE and the OBC shows 31deg.
On my solo rides I did feel quite a lot of heat on my lower right hand side leg but I thought it was just the CAT that was doing it but after yesterday I am not so sure about it. This only happens with highway speed of 120 and higher. My wife complain that her right leg was burning and I feel that even the right hand side grab rail was getting hot.

I found this on the Web: http://hardtxrider.blogspot.co.za/2016/07/gsa-right-side-heat-issue.html?m=1

Euro 4... these people trying to save the world. The leaner the fueling (close to 14.7:1 air/fuel), the more heat. The only way to alleviate (if true) is to add a power commander and enrich the mixture. That, or they change the fuel map at BMW, but then as said, it won't be Euro 4 compliant anymore.

If I were you, I'd go to BMW SA and basically tell them to load a different map if possible. Euro 4 does not apply to SA!

If that fails, I'd recommend this instead of power commander: http://sales.nightrider.com/AF-XIED-for-BMW-R1200_p_59.htm
l

Just make sure that is compatible with the LC as it doesn't state so on the web
 

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2017, 09:06:19 pm »
Hi All,
Do any of you guys have the same problem?
All my previous trips on my new 2017 GSA was done alone. Yesterday my wife join me the first time on the LC to J-Bay for a breakfast. It was quite warm here in PE and the OBC shows 31deg.
On my solo rides I did feel quite a lot of heat on my lower right hand side leg but I thought it was just the CAT that was doing it but after yesterday I am not so sure about it. This only happens with highway speed of 120 and higher. My wife complain that her right leg was burning and I feel that even the right hand side grab rail was getting hot.

I found this on the Web: http://hardtxrider.blogspot.co.za/2016/07/gsa-right-side-heat-issue.html?m=1

Euro 4... these people trying to save the world. The leaner the fueling (close to 14.7:1 air/fuel), the more heat. The only way to alleviate (if true) is to add a power commander and enrich the mixture. That, or they change the fuel map at BMW, but then as said, it won't be Euro 4 compliant anymore.

If I were you, I'd go to BMW SA and basically tell them to load a different map if possible. Euro 4 does not apply to SA!

If that fails, I'd recommend this instead of power commander: http://sales.nightrider.com/AF-XIED-for-BMW-R1200_p_59.htm
l

Just make sure that is compatible with the LC as it doesn't state so on the web

One should do research, I think it is conpatible as I've read of a few that fitted it to LC.
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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2017, 12:15:36 pm »
Rode out to Storms river today and when I got home I noticed that number plate is starting to warp due to heat. It's going for its first service tomorrow so i will definitely be showing this to the service guys.

I definitely think that they should load a different fuel map or come up with another solution. Saying that the fuel mixture is within parameters is irrelevant if the parameters are incorrect to begin with.


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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2017, 03:25:59 pm »
Let me know if anyone wants to give a BoosterPlug a try to see if it alleviates the problem. 1190R riders says it makes their bikes run cooler and air cooled riders report that pinging stops. I am willing to supply a loan unit.
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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2017, 10:34:45 am »
So after having a chat with the dealer this morning. They have stated that BMW SA is aware of the heat issue and is major problem on 17 models. Apparently the fuel mix is within parameters.

I have an Akro slip on so they said the back pressure is different than with the OEM. One of the  solutions they said is to replace the headers to remove the cat, but if you do that it will void the warranty ! I'm mean WTF. They are expecting a major recall soon though, so we shall see.


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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2017, 02:57:56 pm »
I have an Akro slip on so they said the back pressure is different than with the OEM. One of the  solutions they said is to replace the headers to remove the cat, but if you do that it will void the warranty ! I'm mean WTF. They are expecting a major recall soon though, so we shall see.

Ons sal maar sien ivm die warrenty. BMW moet net een ding onthou, ons fietse is nog onder CPA en jy kan dit nog terug gee vir hulle. Noem dit bietjie vir jou dealer en jy sal sien hou gou verander hy sy praatjies oor "Void Warrenties". Hulle is in groot moeilikheid met die 2017 fietse en sal uit hulle pad gaan om jou te help voordat hulle jou fiets terug neem en jou geld terug gee. Jy kan hulle natuurlik ook vir n ander fiets vra om mee te ry totdat hulle die probleem opgelos het. Ek dink dit hang ook maar baie van jou handellaar af, ek weet van hoeveel 2017 fietse waar die handellaars self die CATS laat uithaal het of Akra / Remus Headers aangesit het. Ongelukkig is die koste aan dit verbonde op die oomblik vir die eienaar se sak.

Ek kan ongelukkig nie die handellaars se name op n openbare forum noem nie.

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2017, 03:19:45 pm »
I have an Akro slip on so they said the back pressure is different than with the OEM. One of the  solutions they said is to replace the headers to remove the cat, but if you do that it will void the warranty ! I'm mean WTF. They are expecting a major recall soon though, so we shall see.

Ons sal maar sien ivm die warrenty. BMW moet net een ding onthou, ons fietse is nog onder CPA en jy kan dit nog terug gee vir hulle. Noem dit bietjie vir jou dealer en jy sal sien hou gou verander hy sy praatjies oor "Void Warrenties". Hulle is in groot moeilikheid met die 2017 fietse en sal uit hulle pad gaan om jou te help voordat hulle jou fiets terug neem en jou geld terug gee. Jy kan hulle natuurlik ook vir n ander fiets vra om mee te ry totdat hulle die probleem opgelos het. Ek dink dit hang ook maar baie van jou handellaar af, ek weet van hoeveel 2017 fietse waar die handellaars self die CATS laat uithaal het of Akra / Remus Headers aangesit het. Ongelukkig is die koste aan dit verbonde op die oomblik vir die eienaar se sak.

Ek kan ongelukkig nie die handellaars se name op n openbare forum noem nie.
Vergeet om te se, ek het geen "Heat Issue's" meer op my bike nie, waarvan praat julle  >:D >:D
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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2017, 04:34:47 pm »
I have an Akro slip on so they said the back pressure is different than with the OEM. One of the  solutions they said is to replace the headers to remove the cat, but if you do that it will void the warranty ! I'm mean WTF. They are expecting a major recall soon though, so we shall see.

Ons sal maar sien ivm die warrenty. BMW moet net een ding onthou, ons fietse is nog onder CPA en jy kan dit nog terug gee vir hulle. Noem dit bietjie vir jou dealer en jy sal sien hou gou verander hy sy praatjies oor "Void Warrenties". Hulle is in groot moeilikheid met die 2017 fietse en sal uit hulle pad gaan om jou te help voordat hulle jou fiets terug neem en jou geld terug gee. Jy kan hulle natuurlik ook vir n ander fiets vra om mee te ry totdat hulle die probleem opgelos het. Ek dink dit hang ook maar baie van jou handellaar af, ek weet van hoeveel 2017 fietse waar die handellaars self die CATS laat uithaal het of Akra / Remus Headers aangesit het. Ongelukkig is die koste aan dit verbonde op die oomblik vir die eienaar se sak.

Ek kan ongelukkig nie die handellaars se name op n openbare forum noem nie.
Vergeet om te se, ek het geen "Heat Issue's" meer op my bike nie, waarvan praat julle  >:D >:D
Are those the stainless or Titanium headers ?. According to BMW, akro don't even import the headers into SA as it's not covered under warranty !


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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2017, 08:12:08 am »
Are those the stainless or Titanium headers ?. According to BMW, akro don't even import the headers into SA as it's not covered under warranty !


Black SS Ceramic Coated Remus Headers. You can buy Akra or Remus headers here in SA. The importers have both in stock.
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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2017, 08:16:27 am »
After Ceramic coating was done by Powerkote.
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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2017, 08:31:01 am »
Fokkit... hoe kwyl ek nou op my lessenaar!   :drif:
 

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2017, 08:44:45 am »
Fokkit... hoe kwyl ek nou op my lessenaar!   :drif:

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2017, 09:34:40 am »
The powder coating looks great. I think I'm going to try get a set of headers from the U.K. As they are probably a bit cheaper than here. The only other solution I see is for BMW to replace all the 2017 bikes headers with the ones from the 2016 model


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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2017, 10:39:44 am »
The powder coating looks great. I think I'm going to try get a set of headers from the U.K. As they are probably a bit cheaper than here. The only other solution I see is for BMW to replace all the 2017 bikes headers with the ones from the 2016 model


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They can't do it because then it's not an Euro 4 anymore. I hear they are looking at software updates but that will also be a problem with Euro 4 and they are looking at a way to get better airflow over the CAT.
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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2017, 10:52:22 am »
The powder coating looks great. I think I'm going to try get a set of headers from the U.K. As they are probably a bit cheaper than here. The only other solution I see is for BMW to replace all the 2017 bikes headers with the ones from the 2016 model


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They can't do it because then it's not an Euro 4 anymore. I hear they are looking at software updates but that will also be a problem with Euro 4 and they are looking at a way to get better airflow over the CAT.

Just stop this euro 4 kak and make a specific class for SA. remove cat and be done with it
 

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2017, 11:02:06 am »
also have that problem on my bike will speak to the dealer about it
 

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2017, 01:55:05 pm »
I have logged it at zambizi dealer as well they did not seem to know about the problem

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2017, 08:13:20 pm »
After Ceramic coating was done by Powerkote.

A, lala maar dit lyk mooi. Wat is die skade om dit te laat doen?

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Re: BMW R1200 GSA LC RIGHT SIDE HEAT ISSUE ??
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2017, 08:23:56 pm »
Is Euro4 hoping to save the planet with their exhaust requirements.What a waste of time.Just one of North Korea's missile's have already disturbed the earths atmosphere 10 fold.Who are they fooling.