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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2019, 09:53:06 pm »
1200 has a dry clutch...

Whatever any of the others advise you John, take a tip from me.

Synthetic oil will definitely cause your clutch to slip, JASO or no JASO!  :deal:




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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2019, 10:19:39 pm »
Seeing that the BMW has a dry clutch, I guarantee you if you oil it with ANY oil it will slip! Jaso or no jaso
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2019, 09:49:00 am »
Seeing that the BMW has a dry clutch, I guarantee you if you oil it with ANY oil it will slip! Jaso or no jaso

The person who originally asked about synthetic oil causing a clutch to slip, seems to have an F800GS .....

Oil remains an interesting topic for me.

People are saying that if its a wet clutch you should stay far away from full synthetic oils.

But I often hear that the  clutch is much smoother on it.

Boggles me. 

I'm too scared too take the plunge. So I am still on mineral oil.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2019, 09:49:38 am by TheBear »
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2019, 09:49:49 am »
Seeing that the BMW has a dry clutch, I guarantee you if you oil it with ANY oil it will slip! Jaso or no jaso

The person who originally asked about synthetic oil causing a clutch to slip, seems to have an F800GS .....

He does  :ricky:
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2019, 09:55:48 am »
Seeing that the BMW has a dry clutch, I guarantee you if you oil it with ANY oil it will slip! Jaso or no jaso

The person who originally asked about synthetic oil causing a clutch to slip, seems to have an F800GS .....

He does  :ricky:

Which means a wet clutch which takes us back to your original question, since the 1200 AC remarks doesn't help much.   :ricky:

The "oil question" is always an interesting one.  Ask 10 people and you will get 10 answers.  Herewith the 11th answer:    :lol8:

JASO MA2, or if the Japanese standard bugs you, API SL/M or N (American standard) oil forumulated for a motorcycle should be fine.   The following is a quote directly from my LC's Rider's Manual:

Engine oil:  SAE 5W-40, API SL / JASO MA2, Additives (e.g. molybdenum-based) are not permissible because they can attack coated components of the engine.





« Last Edit: January 08, 2019, 10:17:14 am by TheBear »
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2019, 10:23:31 am »
My GSA has 15w50
Can I top it up with 20w50

Both are liquid molly full synthetic

Is your bike an LC or AC bud?

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If you want to use Synthetic (which is perfectly safe to do so in both AC & LC models (except in high Km bikes - over 70 000Kms that have been running on semi-synthetic)) then use the prescribed 5W40 oil.
If you want to stay with the semi-synthetic that the bike comes out with - then you should use 10W40 only.
Always try and stay within the Manufacturers recommendations for the model in question.
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As a guide if anyone is unsure simply go to the link below and it will tell you what to use by simply typing in the model specs in question.

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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2019, 01:31:50 pm »
Not an oil expert, never will be. But had a 2012 AC BMW. Used any oil I could get my hands on, used her up to 208000 km. did not loose any sleep over it and did not have to either. Use it, don't use it.... :ricky:
 

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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2019, 01:56:17 pm »
Not an oil expert, never will be. But had a 2012 AC BMW. Used any oil I could get my hands on, used her up to 208000 km. did not loose any sleep over it and did not have to either. Use it, don't use it.... :ricky:

I tend to agree.  Oil is oil, but I believe the correct viscosity is important, especially on specific engines, i.e. those using oil pressure to adjust valve lifters.
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2019, 02:10:32 pm »
Going back to the original post. Y'know what?..call me a cynical old bugger, but I can't help wondering.

If a mature, experienced motorcyclist who's been around the block bikewise, and follows this forum with all the regular discussion on this very subject over a number of years, needs to ask whether adding a cupful of 15W40 to an engine full of 20W50 will make any difference, does no one else detect just a slight odour of troll?  :biggrin: :peepwall:
 

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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2019, 02:18:16 pm »
Going back to the original post. Y'know what?..call me a cynical old bugger, but I can't help wondering.

If a mature, experienced motorcyclist who's been around the block bikewise, and follows this forum with all the regular discussion on this very subject over a number of years, needs to ask whether adding a cupful of 15W40 to an engine full of 20W50 will make any difference, does no one else detect just a slight odour of troll?  :biggrin: :peepwall:

You may well be correct you cynical old bugger.   :snorting:
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 02:19:42 pm »
All clutches slip until they take. Or it would not be a clutch
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2019, 03:22:30 pm »
Going back to the original post. Y'know what?..call me a cynical old bugger, but I can't help wondering.

If a mature, experienced motorcyclist who's been around the block bikewise, and follows this forum with all the regular discussion on this very subject over a number of years, needs to ask whether adding a cupful of 15W40 to an engine full of 20W50 will make any difference, does no one else detect just a slight odour of troll?  :biggrin: :peepwall:

You may well be correct you cynical old bugger.   :snorting:

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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2019, 03:44:27 pm »
detect just a slight odour of tdroll?

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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2019, 04:25:50 pm »
Hey... Loep naai julle lot    :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:






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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2019, 10:16:20 am »
Hey... Loep naai julle lot    :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Watse olie sal die beste lubrikasie wees?   :lol8:
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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2019, 10:38:31 am »
Hey... Loep naai julle lot    :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:

Watse olie sal die beste lubrikasie wees?   :lol8:

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Re: Oil Question
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2019, 10:39:24 am »
Always use coconut oil guys.  I thought this was common knowledge? :biggrin:
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