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Offline Frodo7011

Good day everyone. I need some help please. I installed a new hooter today on my bike. It's one of those that uses a small compressor. Got everything connected and it works... sort of. The problem is, it only gives one blast. Then I have to switch off the ignition and back on for it to give only one blast again. I installed it using a relay, so it should be working properly. Anyone that can please advise what may be wrong?
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2019, 10:58:13 pm »
Good day everyone. I need some help please. I installed a new hooter today on my bike. It's one of those that uses a small compressor. Got everything connected and it works... sort of. The problem is, it only gives one blast. Then I have to switch off the ignition and back on for it to give only one blast again. I installed it using a relay, so it should be working properly. Anyone that can please advise what may be wrong?

How did you connect it?  Post a diagram for me.

You should use the existing hooter wiring to trigger the relay only.  Then a feed directly from the battery, through the switched relay contacts to the new shooter.
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2019, 09:26:44 am »
I connected the relay connector 86 and 85 to the existing wires of the old hooter. 30 I connected to the positive on the battery. And 87 I connected to the negative of the battery.
 

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2019, 10:31:05 am »
did you remove/disconnect the old hooter?

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2019, 10:39:15 am »
Yes. Old hooter was removed.
 

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2019, 10:47:05 am »
Yes. Old hooter was removed.

I think that's your problem - the electronics is probably looking for a load of around 3-5A and now only sees the relay load of around 50mA and thinks the hooter is broken and disables the circuit

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2019, 10:50:13 am »
Yes. Old hooter was removed.

I think that's your problem - the electronics is probably looking for a load of around 3-5A and now only sees the relay load of around 50mA and thinks the hooter is broken and disables the circuit

Thank you. Will try connecting it again and see what happens.
 

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2019, 11:07:48 am »
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2019, 11:30:10 am »
Yes. Old hooter was removed.

I think that's your problem - the electronics is probably looking for a load of around 3-5A and now only sees the relay load of around 50mA and thinks the hooter is broken and disables the circuit

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2019, 07:07:16 am »
Yes. Old hooter was removed.

I think that's your problem - the electronics is probably looking for a load of around 3-5A and now only sees the relay load of around 50mA and thinks the hooter is broken and disables the circuit

Ok so I finally got time. Old hooter was connected again. Same issue. One blast and then silence...
 

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 07:52:16 pm »
try disconnecting the compressor from the battery and only power the old hooter and relay?


.... and if the error is still there, disconnect the relay (then you should be back to standard without errors)
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 03:21:50 pm »
Ok. Someone from a different forum suggested the following....

"In other words.....put the original hooter wires on 86 and 85. 30 straight from battery positive via a fuse. 87 to the hooter. Open terminal on hooter goes to earth on the clamp"

Will try this and let you all know.
 

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2019, 05:31:12 pm »
Ok. Someone from a different forum suggested the following....

"In other words.....put the original hooter wires on 86 and 85. 30 straight from battery positive via a fuse. 87 to the hooter. Open terminal on hooter goes to earth on the clamp"

Will try this and let you all know.

That is exactly what I said in reply no:1  Go back and read it.
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 07:03:56 pm »
Ok. Someone from a different forum suggested the following....

"In other words.....put the original hooter wires on 86 and 85. 30 straight from battery positive via a fuse. 87 to the hooter. Open terminal on hooter goes to earth on the clamp"

Will try this and let you all know.

not sure I follow - then you have basically replaced the original hooter with a relay and connected the original hooter through the relay contacts and a fuse to the battery - so your bike electronics will only see a relay as its hooter? except if " to the hooter" means the new hooter and the original hooter is left connected?
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 07:40:06 pm »
Canbus kicks it out, same way it kicks out a compressor if you want to run it via the stock lighter socket.
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2019, 08:23:26 am »
Canbus kicks it out, same way it kicks out a compressor if you want to run it via the stock lighter socket.

Not if it is wired correctly
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2019, 08:49:44 am »
Ok. Someone from a different forum suggested the following....

"In other words.....put the original hooter wires on 86 and 85. 30 straight from battery positive via a fuse. 87 to the hooter. Open terminal on hooter goes to earth on the clamp"

Will try this and let you all know.

So this was the solution?
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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2019, 12:34:56 pm »
Ok. Someone from a different forum suggested the following....

"In other words.....put the original hooter wires on 86 and 85. 30 straight from battery positive via a fuse. 87 to the hooter. Open terminal on hooter goes to earth on the clamp"

Will try this and let you all know.

That is exactly what I said in reply no:1  Go back and read it.

I am not the most technically inclined.... Sorry if I misunderstood.
 

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2019, 05:08:18 pm »
Just finished the rewiring. Everything is working now. Thank you everyone for your input and assistance.
 

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Re: Advice needed - installation of aftermarket Hooter
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2019, 05:29:38 pm »
Ok. Someone from a different forum suggested the following....

"In other words.....put the original hooter wires on 86 and 85. 30 straight from battery positive via a fuse. 87 to the hooter. Open terminal on hooter goes to earth on the clamp"

Will try this and let you all know.

So this is what you did, just for confirmation?  ::)
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