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Offline Bernt

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Front suspension upgrade
« on: November 26, 2019, 07:34:24 pm »
Is there anything out there that is better than standard?
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Re: Front suspension upgrade
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 07:43:17 pm »
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Re: Front suspension upgrade
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 10:05:08 am »
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Re: Front suspension upgrade
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2019, 03:10:44 pm »
Is there anything out there that is better than standard?

Hell Yes, like a pair of proper forks for instance!
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Re: Front suspension upgrade
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 10:00:29 am »
Hi Bernt,

Yup the suspension on the R1200GS/A is very average if you want to do more than the average riding it was designed for.

The Dynamic ESA is connected to the traction control DTC as well as to the ABS over the CAN-bus. The system recognizes the possible activities of the other systems and adaptively controls the damping referring to the requirements. Depending on if inward or outward movements are required a separate triggering of the compression- or rebound-setup is activated.
The adjustment of the damping is done by an electronically activated proportional-damping valve where an annular gap is changed thus influencing the oil flow through the system.
By changing the oil flow velocity and pressure the system adapts the damping force to the new conditions within a few milliseconds.
This however works for an average weighted rider (80-95Kgs) under average conditions. Bear in mind that 96% of GS’s in Europe never ever see off-road conditions – ever. They come standard with Mag wheels, you have to order spoked wheels if you want those.
Here we ride differently, we are generally heavier people and we think these are Enduro bikes, the suspension wasn’t designed for what we want them to do.
This is like any bike in any brand world, even WP suspension has to be upgraded if you want to do silly stuff with it.
With the Wilbers we can do the Stage one Dynamic WESA conversion to either front, back or both. The spring rate is matched to your riding dynamics and weights and we add a new compression head that now has 22 Click damping adjustment. This means that if you want to change the rate of Compression or Rebound damping flow – you can.
If you go for the Stage Two conversion we do the above – but also change the shim stack on the DDC valve to suit your ride style. This is for the guys and gals who do the really hectic GS Trophy type of riding, like the Black Routes etc. This shim stack is calculated by the factory in Germany and worked out according to the weights and ride style you give us.
You can do the Stage one conversion for around R25 000 for both shocks so it is reasonably priced, and your suspension electronics work the same way off the same buttons as previously. None of the BMW CANBUS Electronics are interfered with so these are no Warranty issues. Just way better suspension.

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2020, 12:12:45 pm »
Hi BlingKing

Does the ride height increases with the stage 1 conversion to the same height as the optional sport suspension on the Rallye?
 

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Re: Front suspension upgrade
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2020, 12:30:00 pm »
Hi BlingKing

Does the ride height increases with the stage 1 conversion to the same height as the optional sport suspension on the Rallye?
Probably not as they are only changing valving not stroker

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Re: Front suspension upgrade
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2020, 02:30:20 pm »
Hi BlingKing

Does the ride height increases with the stage 1 conversion to the same height as the optional sport suspension on the Rallye?

Apologies for the late reply - too busy in the workshop.
No it won't - it will be slightly higher only because the better quality of the shocks and the springs being new etc. but it won't make it into an Adventure overnight sadly.
On the old AC bikes I could just order Adventure shocks for a GS but that is not possible on the LC.

I do however have a recon set of Adventure shocks in stock that are for sale.
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