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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2020, 09:21:56 am »
Motoz tyres beste op die mark tans vir my rystyl......ek al deur 3 Adventures agter,  het nou die Desert op vir die eerste keer,  ek verkies die Adventure vÍr bo die Desert..........BygesÍ,  ek het een keer n Motoz Adv voor opgesit.....My verdict...... nie gou weer nie
 

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2020, 09:35:53 am »
I have the Moto Z Tractionator Adventure on the back and Desert up front.  I have done about 8k km on about 40% dirt and 60% tar and have found them to be excellent. I reckon I can do another 3k km before changing the rear only - front is still good.  I don't push them on Tar (or dirt too much for that matter as I'm still a puppy on the bike) due to the knobbly nature but have had no sweat on any routes I have done - they give me klomp confidence in rough dirt, sand, rocks etc. and are good on tar.  I once discovered a leak in the back tyre when about 120km from home when I felt the back getting squirrelly through a corner at about 140km/hr and after checking, saw the tyre had 15psi (albeit using a crappy tyre pressure gauge), pumped her up to 26psi which fell back to 15psi  within 5 min of riding. Took it easy at about 60km/hr and got home with no sweat with the tyre still at 15 psi at home.   I always ride gingerly in the wet in any case so haven't 'tested' them there (yet).  I did find that I get a head shake during hard acceleration and when gripping the handles bars in a death grip sooner than on the previous oem 90/10 tyres - the head shake goes away immediately when I relax the pressure on the handle bars - has anyone else found this with the tractionators? And - what pressures do you okes use on tar and dirt with these tyres.? My next set will also be the Tractionaor Adventure on the back - front is still good for another long while. Great tyres in my opinion.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2020, 09:49:33 am »


Quote from: 777 on Today at 08:42:28 am>Spoke to Steve , supplier, yesterday only getting Adventure in about 6 weeks time, no stock. Unless a dealer has some stock hidden away!
Yes, the container was not shipped when it was supposed to be shipped, most frustrating.
We have 20 - 30 left in stock, so feel free to call to see what we have left, and you will notice the notice (!) that we put up about NEXT stock being delayed from mid-Jan to now in mid-MARCH; out of our hands, unfortunately, though I would LOVE for Steve to EXPAND on why he could not ship when he planned to - and it was not his fault, either...
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2020, 10:47:21 am »
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2020, 01:07:24 pm »
I have the Moto Z Tractionator Adventure on the back and Desert up front.  I have done about 8k km on about 40% dirt and 60% tar and have found them to be excellent. I reckon I can do another 3k km before changing the rear only - front is still good.  I don't push them on Tar (or dirt too much for that matter as I'm still a puppy on the bike) due to the knobbly nature but have had no sweat on any routes I have done - they give me klomp confidence in rough dirt, sand, rocks etc. and are good on tar.  I once discovered a leak in the back tyre when about 120km from home when I felt the back getting squirrelly through a corner at about 140km/hr and after checking, saw the tyre had 15psi (albeit using a crappy tyre pressure gauge), pumped her up to 26psi which fell back to 15psi  within 5 min of riding. Took it easy at about 60km/hr and got home with no sweat with the tyre still at 15 psi at home.   I always ride gingerly in the wet in any case so haven't 'tested' them there (yet).  I did find that I get a head shake during hard acceleration and when gripping the handles bars in a death grip sooner than on the previous oem 90/10 tyres - the head shake goes away immediately when I relax the pressure on the handle bars - has anyone else found this with the tractionators? And - what pressures do you okes use on tar and dirt with these tyres.? My next set will also be the Tractionaor Adventure on the back - front is still good for another long while. Great tyres in my opinion.

I found the first couple hundred kms to be a bit twitchy, ESPECIALLY if you put the rear on with a fairly worn front tyre still on the bike.  Any lean and throttle and it would start to complain haha

They are bloody heavy, and very tall tyres though. When I first put one on my 1190 it would still make contact with the ground when the bike was on the centre stand when new!!
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2020, 08:31:50 pm »
Motoz tyres beste op die mark tans vir my rystyl......ek al deur 3 Adventures agter,  het nou die Desert op vir die eerste keer,  ek verkies die Adventure vÍr bo die Desert..........BygesÍ,  ek het een keer n Motoz Adv voor opgesit.....My verdict...... nie gou weer nie

Agreed, 2 years ago had the Adventures front and rear to Nam and back, - 6000 km. Rear was great but man alive! ... that front tyre sure makes a noise.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2020, 09:17:36 pm »
Nobody here use the Anakee Wild on front?  I use the AW on front and Motoz Desert on the rear of my 990.  The AW is a phenomenal tyre, both off-road and on road, tough as nails.  Honestly there have been times when Iíve punched into rocks and ledges where Iíve prayed for a snake bite instead of a smiley, and amazingly - nothing.  Iím yet to have a front puncture.  It lasts forever, and doesnít cup as badly as some.
Only thing is itís noisy.  This may worry some people... in fact the Motoz Rally is also noisy!



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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2020, 09:29:54 pm »
Nobody here use the Anakee Wild on front?  I use the AW on front and Motoz Desert on the rear of my 990.  The AW is a phenomenal tyre, both off-road and on road, tough as nails.  Honestly there have been times when Iíve punched into rocks and ledges where Iíve prayed for a snake bite instead of a smiley, and amazingly - nothing.  Iím yet to have a front puncture.  It lasts forever, and doesnít cup as badly as some.
Only thing is itís noisy.  This may worry some people... in fact the Motoz Rally is also noisy!



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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2020, 09:34:07 pm »
I've had the Desert rear fitted a couple of times, and its really quite an aggressive earth mover. I think its the best , and most aggressive tire in the market. In my opinion, its more aggressive than the Rallz. (See the pics attached) Still gave me around 5 thousand Kilos with some highway and city commuting thrown in as well.

But, I find the front Tractionator Adventure somewhat rigid and it tends to skid sideways under load. Mostly because of the stiff carcass, me thinks. Pro's, and con's...Tried to adjust tire pressure but the bouncy sideways surprises every now and then only improved slightly.

For the front, There's still nothing to beat TKC80, in my opinion. Yes its soft, but that allows it to grip on the tar stretches, and it performs lovely in sand and rocks.

I'm doing Kaokoland and Damaraland in May with Specialised Adventures. My tire choice: Tractionator Desert at the rear and TKC 80 in front. 

Will be seeing you on the same trip in May :thumleft:  I am still figuring out (amongst other things) what my tire setup will be, your combo sounds like the bomb.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2020, 09:38:22 pm »
Yep - the one thing I forgot - you do need earplugs as they are noisy on tar.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2020, 11:07:10 pm »
Ditto
Anakee wild front and back works great on the 790 too.
Ditto on my KLR...  :thumleft:

However the best gripping knobby rear I ever uses was Mitas C03... and best velcro on the front ever was a T63. But I never cared about wear.Grip on all surfaces is what counts for me. ;D
 

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2020, 12:45:08 am »
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2020, 08:15:20 pm »
I've had the Desert rear fitted a couple of times, and its really quite an aggressive earth mover. I think its the best , and most aggressive tire in the market. In my opinion, its more aggressive than the Rallz. (See the pics attached) Still gave me around 5 thousand Kilos with some highway and city commuting thrown in as well.

But, I find the front Tractionator Adventure somewhat rigid and it tends to skid sideways under load. Mostly because of the stiff carcass, me thinks. Pro's, and con's...Tried to adjust tire pressure but the bouncy sideways surprises every now and then only improved slightly.

For the front, There's still nothing to beat TKC80, in my opinion. Yes its soft, but that allows it to grip on the tar stretches, and it performs lovely in sand and rocks.

I'm doing Kaokoland and Damaraland in May with Specialised Adventures. My tire choice: Tractionator Desert at the rear and TKC 80 in front. 

Will be seeing you on the same trip in May :thumleft:  I am still figuring out (amongst other things) what my tire setup will be, your combo sounds like the bomb.

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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2020, 08:23:14 pm »
I've had the Desert rear fitted a couple of times, and its really quite an aggressive earth mover. I think its the best , and most aggressive tire in the market. In my opinion, its more aggressive than the Rallz. (See the pics attached) Still gave me around 5 thousand Kilos with some highway and city commuting thrown in as well.

But, I find the front Tractionator Adventure somewhat rigid and it tends to skid sideways under load. Mostly because of the stiff carcass, me thinks. Pro's, and con's...Tried to adjust tire pressure but the bouncy sideways surprises every now and then only improved slightly.

For the front, There's still nothing to beat TKC80, in my opinion. Yes its soft, but that allows it to grip on the tar stretches, and it performs lovely in sand and rocks.

I'm doing Kaokoland and Damaraland in May with Specialised Adventures. My tire choice: Tractionator Desert at the rear and TKC 80 in front.
Thanks for that. I have also heard good things about the Moto Z tyres and was thinking of putting on front and back for my Lesotho trip. Why do you not use the Moto Z for the front?

And also , what is the Moto Z like on fast tar. Lesotho is far and the people I ride with ride fast .

We were going to get new tyres just before the trip in March, but I am very reluctant to put on a tyre that I don't know just before a big trip.

I think I must get new tyres now to test them, and then if I like the Moto Z I can just get new ones for the trip and then use my used ones again after the trip.  A friend got the Rally for his GS 1200 and likes it a lot.

I was thinking front and back though.

Yes I loved the TKC' s front and back on my GS 1200 but have't tried that on the 990.  On the 990 I have had scorpions, but not that happy with them.

For some reason the front Tractionator Rallz and Desert has a tendency to bounce out of line or slide on hard packed gravel, when you don't expect it. Granted, as a rule, it's usually loaded and at speed. 
I think its because of the stiff carcass construction. I've deflated it, and then the surprises are less frequent and smaller... still gets your attention. In sand and mud, though, it's traction abilities are amazing.
...and yes... its a noisy bitch on tar that enjoys a head shake at around 160km/h. But hey, its like your Matric dance... just join in on the right beat, and swing along, or... go slower. It is an aggressive knobbly, after all.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2020, 12:04:47 am »
Motoz are the best tyres for me

I've had 3 x deserts on the rear and 2 x enduro motoz on the front.
Have fitted a new motoz adv. Tyre on the rear as I'm shipping the bike to the uk
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2020, 12:52:48 am »
The interwebs seem a bit inconclusive on this - apparently the Mitas E 07+ is the alternative for the E - 07 - which apparently has not been discontinued, but you can get a E-07+ a bit easier through your local dealer.
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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2020, 08:00:24 am »
The interwebs seem a bit inconclusive on this - apparently the Mitas E 07+ is the alternative for the E - 07 - which apparently has not been discontinued, but you can get a E-07+ a bit easier through your local dealer.
Why do they make it so difficult for us to get the right tyre?

Apparently specific sizes of the E07 will be replaced with the E07+. Heidenau did a similar thing with the K60.
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2020, 08:13:04 am »
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zacapa wrote: The interwebs seem a bit inconclusive on this - apparently the Mitas E 07+ is the alternative for the E - 07 - which apparently has not been discontinued, but you can get a E-07+ a bit easier through your local dealer.[/size]Why do they make it so difficult for us to get the right tyre?
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Re: Motoz dual sport tyres
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2020, 12:53:53 pm »
Nobody here use the Anakee Wild on front?  I use the AW on front and Motoz Desert on the rear of my 990.  The AW is a phenomenal tyre, both off-road and on road, tough as nails.  Honestly there have been times when Iíve punched into rocks and ledges where Iíve prayed for a snake bite instead of a smiley, and amazingly - nothing.  Iím yet to have a front puncture.  It lasts forever, and doesnít cup as badly as some.
Only thing is itís noisy.  This may worry some people... in fact the Motoz Rally is also noisy






Jip dis presies die kombinasie wat ek mee ry....moet sÍ  Anekee wild is n great voor tyre veral as jy bietjie "aanstoot"....Anekee is nie naastenby so "noisy" soos Motoz  nie
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