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Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« on: June 14, 2020, 01:47:34 pm »
Fortnine, well known for honest and reliable reviewing, is giving the BMW GS1250 the honest review.

And it is hugely entertaining, as well as sobering.

Perhaps someone can post the specific video here? >:D

The last sentence is the best!! :thumleft:
 

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2020, 03:00:55 pm »
Kan dink jy het dit baie geniet......... :peepwall:

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2020, 03:44:44 pm »
Dankie Canzius, ja ek het dit baie geniet.

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 09:14:18 am »
Dankie Canzius, ja ek het dit baie geniet.

Verfrissende eerlike logika in ons tyd van deurmekaar dinge.

I know that you're not the biggest fan of BMW on here, and I know the fact that I've got a F800 isn't gonna help my argument - but this video is probably one of their crappest videos. Normally, they research the stuff quite well, but they are making issues of the shiftcam - didn't check in which direction it fails etc. They moan about features designed for on-road use, that can be switched off when you go off road - and those features are also available on the bikes they recommend instead.

This video comes across as a piss on GS12XX bikes, instead of a technical look or comparison, which in retrospect, is probably why you like it :)
 

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 09:23:40 am »
Dankie Canzius, ja ek het dit baie geniet.

Verfrissende eerlike logika in ons tyd van deurmekaar dinge.

I know that you're not the biggest fan of BMW on here, and I know the fact that I've got a F800 isn't gonna help my argument - but this video is probably one of their crappest videos. Normally, they research the stuff quite well, but they are making issues of the shiftcam - didn't check in which direction it fails etc. They moan about features designed for on-road use, that can be switched off when you go off road - and those features are also available on the bikes they recommend instead.

This video comes across as a piss on GS12XX bikes, instead of a technical look or comparison, which in retrospect, is probably why you like it :)
Exactly!

I’ve ridden the 1250 offroad only and was amazed with everything about the bike.

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 09:29:02 am »
Nie geweet jy is n gamer nie Danie?  Fortnite channel...
 

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2020, 09:35:29 am »
Nie geweet jy is n gamer nie Danie?  Fortnite channel...
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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2020, 09:47:30 am »
This thread will be in JouMa in 4,3,2,1..............
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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 10:07:18 am »
I love Fortnine - good videos, good production, etc.

The only real valid point in that entire video is the price.

Sure the variable valve tech is old but so is a boxer motor.

@2StrokeDan you should actually be thanking BMW.  If it was not for BMW I believe the adventure/dual sport bike options would be a lot smaller than it is today.  Many of the bikes you find out there today is to compete with BMW in the market segment.  If BMW did not make the adventure segment so attractive I'm sure many of the other producers would not blink and eye at adventure bikes.

 

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2020, 12:35:20 pm »
I love Fortnine - good videos, good production, etc.

The only real valid point in that entire video is the price.

Sure the variable valve tech is old but so is a boxer motor.

@2StrokeDan you should actually be thanking BMW.  If it was not for BMW I believe the adventure/dual sport bike options would be a lot smaller than it is today.  Many of the bikes you find out there today is to compete with BMW in the market segment.  If BMW did not make the adventure segment so attractive I'm sure many of the other producers would not blink and eye at adventure bikes.


Indeed Bob, it's all about the price, and this answers Ghostfoursix's post too, as the GS1250 is ludicrously expensive for something that staggers under the weight of ancient technology.

Similar situation to the GS310, where buyers have proven that they are not willing to pay double for an Indian creature.
 

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2020, 12:49:50 pm »
Yes, nice vid!
Here's another one....  :biggrin:

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2020, 01:18:31 pm »
I love Fortnine - good videos, good production, etc.

The only real valid point in that entire video is the price.

Sure the variable valve tech is old but so is a boxer motor.

@2StrokeDan you should actually be thanking BMW.  If it was not for BMW I believe the adventure/dual sport bike options would be a lot smaller than it is today.  Many of the bikes you find out there today is to compete with BMW in the market segment.  If BMW did not make the adventure segment so attractive I'm sure many of the other producers would not blink and eye at adventure bikes.


Indeed Bob, it's all about the price, and this answers Ghostfoursix's post too, as the GS1250 is ludicrously expensive for something that staggers under the weight of ancient technology.

Similar situation to the GS310, where buyers have proven that they are not willing to pay double for an Indian creature.

Oooo. Is that the point we are debating. Yeah, look, if I had my pick of the new bikes I wouldn't buy a GS1250 nor a 850. Not the biggest fan of the new bikes looks. My money would probably go towards an Africa Twin or a Tiger 900.
Of all the F9 videos though, this one seems the most biased though.
 

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2020, 01:35:40 pm »
Biased, ja sure.

What I got from that video is that he says it is a good bike, but it doesn't live up to the hype or the price. Makes sense to me.
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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2020, 01:46:49 pm »
Now we just need Ryan to test and confirm the T7's legendary status  :deal:
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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2020, 02:56:19 pm »
I love Fortnine - good videos, good production, etc.

The only real valid point in that entire video is the price.

Sure the variable valve tech is old but so is a boxer motor.

@2StrokeDan you should actually be thanking BMW.  If it was not for BMW I believe the adventure/dual sport bike options would be a lot smaller than it is today.  Many of the bikes you find out there today is to compete with BMW in the market segment.  If BMW did not make the adventure segment so attractive I'm sure many of the other producers would not blink and eye at adventure bikes.


Indeed Bob, it's all about the price, and this answers Ghostfoursix's post too, as the GS1250 is ludicrously expensive for something that staggers under the weight of ancient technology.

Similar situation to the GS310, where buyers have proven that they are not willing to pay double for an Indian creature.

Oooo. Is that the point we are debating. Yeah, look, if I had my pick of the new bikes I wouldn't buy a GS1250 nor a 850. Not the biggest fan of the new bikes looks. My money would probably go towards an Africa Twin or a Tiger 900.
Of all the F9 videos though, this one seems the most biased though.

Please watch his video.  He's not dissing the cruiser, just stating, and providing facts to boot, that the GS1250 is way too expensive.

Fact is that my 1972 Suzuki GT750 was watercooled, GS1200 got that in 2013. :-[

VVT is found on the late 80's Suzuki Bandit 400's, 2020 sees BMW get it.

BMW make you pay for the development on these things, done in fact 40 + years ago by the Japanese. :imaposer:

And, and, that Boxer motor should be fitted free, as it comes from 1923, and there could have been no development cost for decades, just bigger pots every few years.
 

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2020, 02:58:19 pm »
I liked the 1250 Fortnine review. I shared it on Proudly Meerkat actually  :pot:
but think the humour went over the heads of most GS owners, didn't get a lot of bites and actually less anger than its getting here.

Think I should share the Fortnine review of the Super tenere in the Super tenere followers group next, that's just as good a review actually, and too bad if I get banned  :biggrin:
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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2020, 03:07:54 pm »
And, and, that Boxer motor should be fitted free, as it comes from 1923, and there could have been no development cost for decades, just bigger pots every few years.

That is a big fat lie!

They do lots of development on the big GS's - constantly working on building it cheaper than the previous model.

I had the F650GS - brilliant, bullet proof bikes but if I wanted another BMW it wont be a GS1200 or GS1250.

Would not mind:

K75
K100
R80GS
R1100GS
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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2020, 03:09:01 pm »
And, and, that Boxer motor should be fitted free, as it comes from 1923, and there could have been no development cost for decades, just bigger pots every few years.

That is a big fat lie!

They do lots of development on the big GS's - constantly working on building it cheaper than the previous model.

I had the F650GS - brilliant, bullet proof bikes but if I wanted another BMW it wont be a GS1200 or GS1250.

Would not mind:

K75
K100
R80GS
R1100GS
R1150GS/GSA

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2020, 04:02:39 pm »
And, and, that Boxer motor should be fitted free, as it comes from 1923, and there could have been no development cost for decades, just bigger pots every few years.

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Re: Youtube's Fortnine channel.....
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2020, 04:05:22 pm »
I really enjoy watching FortNine… honest reviews and to the point.... usually Ryan nails it on the head... in BMW GS1250 case, no exception ;D :thumleft:
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