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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 04:36:30 pm »
I can't imagine getting onto my bike without boots and gloves.

I'd say I wear a jacket 99% of the time, but occasionally it's nice to ride in just a t-shirt.

I still wear boots and knee guards if I'm riding in shorts (don't care how stupid I look)
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 04:36:56 pm »
I ride with full ATGATT. If I dont feel like dressing up, I dont ride! ;D

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 04:43:25 pm »
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 05:05:26 pm »
When I was 17 I came off on tar in Hermanus on the way home from rugby practice on my trusty MTX50. I was wearing PT shorts and doing no more than 50km/h when a dog ran in front of me. I went over the h/bars and landed knees-first on the tar. I tried to stand up immediately and went into a cartwheel since I was still skidding down the road at about 20km/h - that's how I hurt my wrist as well.

It took a long time to heal, and I could not bend my knees at all during the recovery period. You try putting your underpants on without bending your knees!

As an aside... when my mom stormed into the hospital reception after receiving the phone call, the owner of the dog was standing there (small town). The ensuing conversation went something like this:

"Hi, are you the owner of the dog that my son rode over?"
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"Oh, how is he?"
"No, we don't think he's going to make it"  :eek7:

I couldn't understand why my mom was in histerics when she came running into the surgery!

PS. the fkn dog did make it in the end.

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 06:20:26 pm »
LGF I ride with top half with full protection and jeans and boots when it is really hot and lately I have progressed to a Leatt  brace as well. I was like 10 km from home on Sunday and I realised I did not have the neck brace on so I turned around and went back to fetch it.
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 06:22:57 pm »
I guess what I'm saying is how come so few road bike riders don't wear full ATGATT when they are the ones likely to need it most?
They have not fallen hard enough or often enough... yet... >:D
Pure luck imho.
I wear all my gear just to go buy milk. :deal:

Are you serious Rob? - the shop's 1km from where I live - there's no way I'm putting on jacket, trousers and boots for that!
Then again, I live in Sedgefiled where traffic isn't much of a problem  :D
Yet in Segdefield there was een moerse accident in the mainroad where cars are suppossed to travel at 60km/h
Which of course they dont. Someone was killed.
Rather take the car fetching the milk and paper LGF.
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 06:29:41 pm »
Felt like a clown on Saturday. A group of us, mainly farmers went for a little ride in the area and I was the only one with a jacket, riding pants, boots & gloves. The rest only had helmets, t-shirt, shorts, takkies and the bikes involved were a KTM 990, 950, 3 Dakars, 1200 BM, KLR and myself. Felt totally overdressed, but I am comfortble with the idea.
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 09:36:41 pm »
It is to me two things, 1st. what I see as ACCEPTABLE risk, and 2nd. what I feel comfortable with. If I have to sweat under my jacket, I take it off[if I had one I would take it off] I always wear jeans and foot protection and in summer always a tee-shirt. I just have this nagging feeling that I must enjoy my ride >:D
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 09:38:37 pm »

And one day if I do crash, feel free to jest and laugh at me. I do at you. :peepwall:


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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2011, 09:41:32 pm »
if you are so risk averse that a 2km trip to the shops needs a leatt brace, boots, padded clothing, +++ you might need to rethink the whole biking thing  ;D

I know the risks of a quick trip in shorts and t-shirt, but it is an acceptable risk.

to each his own, wear what makes you feel comfortable.
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2011, 10:01:46 pm »
Most accidents happen within 5 km's of home...

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2011, 11:48:56 pm »
Start with:
1. Gloves
2. Helmet
3. Boots
4. Knee protection and or proper pants
5. Jacket
6. Neck Brace.

That is on order of importance for for cafe run - or is this just a cafe run?
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2011, 01:36:38 am »

It depends on speed.

If you put-put around on dirt and you fall at 15 mph, gear is nice and will provide some comfort and save some skin, but it's not _that_ big of a deal. 

But whenever you add high speed to the equation, the resulting accidents often become very painful or deadly.  If you have the skills to blast through twisty dirt roads at 60 mph, you better wear your gear as well. 

Personally, if I am going out to ride (dirt or tar), I wear all my gear.  But if I am taking a quick ride to the store or office, I do not always wear all my gear.  I know I am taking a an unnecessary risk for the sake of convenience and it may potentially backfire on me someday, but I'm comfortable with that risk.  Of course if I get hurt, I will feel pretty stupid writing this.

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2011, 07:48:04 am »
I guess what I'm saying is how come so few road bike riders don't wear full ATGATT when they are the ones likely to need it most?
They have not fallen hard enough or often enough... yet... >:D
Pure luck imho.
I wear all my gear just to go buy milk. :deal:

Are you serious Rob? - the shop's 1km from where I live - there's no way I'm putting on jacket, trousers and boots for that!
Then again, I live in Sedgefiled where traffic isn't much of a problem  :D
Yet in Segdefield there was een moerse accident in the mainroad where cars are suppossed to travel at 60km/h
Which of course they dont. Someone was killed.
Rather take the car fetching the milk and paper LGF.

Thanks for your concern Chris - I don't use the main road to the shops and I don't have a car!  ;D
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2011, 07:50:45 am »
OK, lets try this.
Any dogs here that also own a straight road bike? What do you war when you ride it - your full DS kit, or something else?
In my experience, road riders ride MUCH faster than we do on dirt.
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2011, 08:00:11 am »
I have also seen gear as a factor of your introduction to bikes.
If you only started recently you have the fear put into you and you ride like a storm trooper.

I've had my fair share of eina's but ride in shorts and slops occasionally. Its my choice.
DS riding is almost the same as tar, proper offroad is 100% kit all the time.
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2011, 08:01:18 am »
Most accidents happen within 5 km's of home...

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No need to go that far ! Park the bike at a friend's house bout 6 k's from home and you are more than safe  :ricky:
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2011, 09:15:23 am »
I always wear my jacket, no matter how short the trip is.

Just dont ride with shorts and knee guards, the sun burns the living sh1t out of your legs!! :)
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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2011, 09:33:14 am »
Obviously the more gear the less the injury, its all about acceptable risk.Riding a bike isn't the most dangerous
pass time about.
Would those adamant on AGGAT: Drive a cage after a few beers ?
                                                    : Travel in the back of a LDV ?
                                                    : Travel in a car without a safety belt ?
                                                    : Travel in a car not fitted with air bags ?
 

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Re: Where is ATGATT more needed...
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2011, 09:57:37 am »
Obviously the more gear the less the injury, its all about acceptable risk.Riding a bike isn't the most dangerous
pass time about.
Would those adamant on AGGAT: Drive a cage after a few beers ?
                                                    : Travel in the back of a LDV ?
                                                    : Travel in a car without a safety belt ?
                                                    : Travel in a car not fitted with air bags ?


exactly, where do you draw the line? Only drive a NCAP 5 star rated car? Not leaving the house on a Friday evening?

I stopped commuting with the bike because the risk is unacceptable to me (actually the wife worries about my mortality, not enough life insurance it seems)

AND all the ATTGATT in the world will not help some people who just cant ride for shit or who are not "spatially aware" of net plain deur die mis