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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #180 on: January 16, 2013, 05:53:47 pm »
...maar wees oopkop...

lol

as dit nou nie die mees ironieste post op die hele internet is nie  :peepwall:

Ek is brand-befok, maar is nog NOOIT langs die pad gelos deur n bike nie. Ek dink dit is dalk omdat ek oopkop is..... :imaposer:
 

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« Reply #181 on: January 16, 2013, 06:05:50 pm »
2SD

eks voor in die tou vir die integriteit van 'n 500cc aircooled thumper, maar

jys 'n mechanic, ek is nie. 'n probleem vir my is iets wat my dalk laat gaan staan, is vir jou dalk net 'n los draadjie wat jy onmiddelik optel en dalk nie eers sien as n probleem nie.

ek het al baie voor dieselfde keuse gestaan. maar as ek sien hoe sukkel baie forum lede met hul ou thumpers van verskeie fabrikate, XT's inkluis, dan besef ek dat vir my is oopkop, om so nuut as moontlik te kyk binne die budget wat ek het.

'n goeie voorbeeld is my skoonpa op Villiersdorp se 1993 Toyota Hilux bakkie.1800 SR, nes die destydse poliesvans. eenvoudige meganika, en n kanniedood, soos jy noem van die XT500. Hy het nou 493 000km op die klok, so hy het sy kant gebring en homself vele kere terugbetaal. Start steeds eerste swaai. Maar skoonpa ry al vir twee jaar nie verder as Caledon of Worcester met hom nie, ver ingeval iets breek. Want iets gaan breek, want hy is plein oud. En dit help nie jy doen enjin oor nie, want dan is die res van die bakkie steeds 20 jaar oud, en dis die wortel van die volgende probleme.    

  
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #182 on: January 16, 2013, 06:22:49 pm »
Daar is nie eintlik iets aan 'n XT wat kan breek nie................

Een van my werknemers het 'n 1983 XT500 by iemand op hierdie forum gekoop. Ek sien die fiets elke dag, en het vroeer self met hom in die Namib gery. Die laaste 30 000km het net bande en sprockets gekos.

'n Ou bike is nie noodwendig 'n money-pit of onbetroubaar nie.

 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #183 on: January 16, 2013, 06:23:53 pm »
Ek moet erken die Enfield is baie mooi
 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #184 on: January 16, 2013, 06:55:20 pm »
Ek dink ook die bikes lyk goed. Sal graag een vir n test drive wil vat. :ricky:
Dit is miskien net wat ek nodig het as die 1150 ADV te swaar raak.
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #185 on: January 16, 2013, 06:59:02 pm »
Daar is nie eintlik iets aan 'n XT wat kan breek nie................

Een van my werknemers het 'n 1983 XT500 by iemand op hierdie forum gekoop. Ek sien die fiets elke dag, en het vroeer self met hom in die Namib gery. Die laaste 30 000km het net bande en sprockets gekos.

'n Ou bike is nie noodwendig 'n money-pit of onbetroubaar nie.



Dankie Vlakhaas, ek het n bietjie ondersteuning nodig tussen hierdie klomp Filistyne. :pot: :imaposer:
 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #186 on: January 16, 2013, 08:52:33 pm »
FOCUS boys..... we're talking about Royal Enfields here... not Jamjars! :argue:
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #187 on: January 17, 2013, 05:47:39 am »
If it was not for increasing EU standards for noise and emissions, older design engines like the RE would still be fully functional and capable of work as they are simpler and less stressed. 

The new designs do perform better and produce more power, torque amd fuel economy due to hi-tech engine management.  But it is the hi-tech that fails as they are not DESIGNED for durability without continuous repeated adjustment of hypercritical fuel-air ratio settings and replacement of the sensors that inform the system. 

Carbs were always a compromise for the whole rev range, whereas EFI can be different over the whole rev range. 

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #188 on: January 17, 2013, 07:07:05 am »
Modern electronics are actually very reliable, considering the amount of vehicles sold nowadays. The cheaper level of vehicles, Tata, Enfield, Cherry, etc, does not use electronic components of the quality that say Yamaha would fit, so there is more of a reliability issue here. Aircraft are full of electronics, yet failures are uncommon.
Like Fudmucker pointed out, emission requirements is what is sounding the death knell for XT's, Enfields, etc.
 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #189 on: January 17, 2013, 02:48:50 pm »
Die bikes lyk nice, maar 1950s' Britse tegnologie in India gebou, ek weetnie so mooi nie......   :pot:
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« Reply #190 on: January 17, 2013, 03:29:27 pm »

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)


So how would a RE compare against an airhead?

Fuel / maintenance / speed / other?
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #191 on: January 17, 2013, 04:21:19 pm »
Airhead is a twin, RE a single, difficult comparing.
 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #192 on: January 17, 2013, 04:55:42 pm »

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)


So how would a RE compare against an airhead?

Fuel / maintenance / speed / other?

Royal Enfield:

Fuel: lighter
Maintenance: yet to be confirmed in SA but the airhead is known for reliability
Speed: RE is really slow and all day cruising speed is ariund 110 (more and the motor is stressed) acceleration and therefore overtaking is real slow but on the other hand, you are not going to do a lot of overtaking or win traffuc light dices. The airhead outperforms the RE but you cant compare a single and twin can you?
Other-posinng value maybe? Perfect bike for short breacfast runs with old style helmut and goggles


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This is only my opinion, it is a nice shirt distance classic
KLR is not much more money and with her you can do anything an even cruise two up for the whole day on 130 and still have enough power for swift overtaking

 
 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #193 on: January 18, 2013, 10:38:28 am »
If it was not for increasing EU standards for noise and emissions, older design engines like the RE would still be fully functional and capable of work as they are simpler and less stressed. 

The new designs do perform better and produce more power, torque amd fuel economy due to hi-tech engine management.  But it is the hi-tech that fails as they are not DESIGNED for durability without continuous repeated adjustment of hypercritical fuel-air ratio settings and replacement of the sensors that inform the system. 

Carbs were always a compromise for the whole rev range, whereas EFI can be different over the whole rev range. 

(I'm sure if India still made the older BMW Airhead engined models, they would that still sell well.)


Ural, not India, but close enough. Concept is the same
 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #194 on: January 18, 2013, 04:46:21 pm »
Ural, not India, but close enough. Concept is the same

I was thinking more of the R50/60/75 engines - the Type 247.
The Ural is based on a circa 1941 BMW motor design, but with engineering to much coarser tolerances.
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #195 on: January 19, 2013, 05:31:33 pm »
Magistraat maar die goed is mooi!  :ricky: Kan mens hulle test-drive daar in Somerset Wes?
 

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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #196 on: March 07, 2013, 08:35:20 am »
Ek skeur vanoggend amper my nêrsderm mors af in die traffic. Net om die draai van WOA in Edwardsstraat in Bellvillle het n nuwe tak van Thruxton oopgemaak en hulle was besig om die Desert kleur ene op n ramp uit te stoot. O moedertjie maar dis mooi. Ek het lanklaas iets so mooi gesien.

Daar is definitief een in my toekoms.
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #197 on: March 07, 2013, 08:54:54 am »
 :sip:
You know you've landed with the wheels up when it takes full power to taxi to the ramp.
 

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« Reply #198 on: March 07, 2013, 09:10:01 am »
Ek skeur vanoggend amper my nÍrsderm mors af in die traffic. Net om die draai van WOA in Edwardsstraat in Bellvillle het n nuwe tak van Thruxton oopgemaak en hulle was besig om die Desert kleur ene op n ramp uit te stoot. O moedertjie maar dis mooi. Ek het lanklaas iets so mooi gesien.

Daar is definitief een in my toekoms.

ek hou ook vol, ek MOET net weer my toetrede op een van hierdie outjies maak. goeie deals beskikbaar in die tweedehandse mark. 
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Re: Royal Enfield as 'Alternative' DS bike Photos Added
« Reply #199 on: March 07, 2013, 09:11:59 am »
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