Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register

Author Topic: 450X First ride, first impressions  (Read 1074 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Motties

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 1090 Adventure R
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 2,047
  • Thanked: 7 times
  • Was Darksider
450X First ride, first impressions
« on: December 22, 2013, 07:15:06 pm »
Took the 450 out for the first time on Saturday, did about 100k's around Maraisburg which included quite a bit of climbing.

Overall very impressed with the bikes power and handling. There is plenty of usable power, similar to the 530's but to me it feels like it is "put down" better than the KTM's. Definitely less wheel spinning and shit flying everywhere under max acceleration, this might be due to the rear suspension design or setup but definitely feels very good in this regard.

The suspension works very well in the fast stuff including big whoops, the rear feels especially good to me. Forks not bad either but harsh in rocky and choppy terrain. Will definitely try to smooth these out a bit. (have read about this before as well)

Brakes are good and clutch pulls light, much better than I expected for the cable operated system.

Battled to select third gear three or four times under power but may only require to get used to the bike.

Front did not feel as light as an "un-damped" KTM, but did find I was gripping the bars way tighter than normally which resulted in some blisters, normally not an issue for me. This is probably a function rather of the forks being a bit harsh. I will sort out the suspension first before considering a steering damper for this bike.

Climbing the mine dumps is really easy on this bike.

Overall I am very happy with the bike and look forward to start blinging, dont think I would be using it as a dual sport bike but may for Botswana's race (although the 300 is also very good there) and one or two of faster GOC races and possibly for Namaqua's Rally
'16 KTM 300 XCW
 

Offline Rolling Stone

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1200GS HP2
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 2,036
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 07:38:02 pm »
Pic of your bike.?
 

Offline Kenisis

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 990 Adventure
    Location: Other
  • Posts: 1,483
  • Dubai
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 07:47:08 pm »
I am glad you like the Bike Fanie! Just goes to show why the bike has been so successful throughout the world albeit not in SA.

I like that the suspension can soak pretty much anything up and is comfortable on longer rides. My Mx bike tires me out on a 100 km ride but I can Ride the X all day long!

What mods you thinking of?
2012 KTM 990 Adventure
2015 KTM Rally Replica
2016 Husqvarna FE 450
2017 Husqvarna FC 450
 

Offline sidetrack

  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: Yamaha XT 660 Z
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 13,650
  • Thanked: 394 times
  • T7 dreamin’ ....
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 07:49:12 pm »
Also found mine had alot of usable bottom end which is not always the case for a 450. And same goes for the front forks, after a days hard riding I was done for, spending some money on them of the bat would be a good idea.
Little by little, one travels far
J.R.R Tolkien
 

Offline Motties

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 1090 Adventure R
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 2,047
  • Thanked: 7 times
  • Was Darksider
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 08:12:22 pm »
First up will be some work on the forks yes, maybe a fat bar conversion with a better raiser setup than the current, wider footpegs (stock is very small) and a clutch cover guard or such, that things seems very soft or my ridiing style wears that area heavily.

If I am using for namaqua rally then nav gear and possibly an oil cooler.

I hear guys run 900ml oil in the gearbox, as opposed to the stock (600ml?) What say you?
'16 KTM 300 XCW
 

Offline sidetrack

  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: Yamaha XT 660 Z
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 13,650
  • Thanked: 394 times
  • T7 dreamin’ ....
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 08:20:48 pm »
First up will be some work on the forks yes, maybe a fat bar conversion with a better raiser setup than the current, wider footpegs (stock is very small) and a clutch cover guard or such, that things seems very soft or my ridiing style wears that area heavily.

If I am using for namaqua rally then nav gear and possibly an oil cooler.

I hear guys run 900ml oil in the gearbox, as opposed to the stock (600ml?) What say you?
I always used 750ml as per manual for gearbox, it is also engraved in the side of the engine cover. For my motor I used 700ml if I remember correctly. Real easy to service, the manual is very helpfull and well written. Did you get one with the bike ?
Little by little, one travels far
J.R.R Tolkien
 

Offline Motties

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 1090 Adventure R
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 2,047
  • Thanked: 7 times
  • Was Darksider
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2013, 08:37:35 pm »
First up will be some work on the forks yes, maybe a fat bar conversion with a better raiser setup than the current, wider footpegs (stock is very small) and a clutch cover guard or such, that things seems very soft or my ridiing style wears that area heavily.

If I am using for namaqua rally then nav gear and possibly an oil cooler.

I hear guys run 900ml oil in the gearbox, as opposed to the stock (600ml?) What say you?
I always used 750ml as per manual for gearbox, it is also engraved in the side of the engine cover. For my motor I used 700ml if I remember correctly. Real easy to service, the manual is very helpfull and well written. Did you get one with the bike ?
I did not get a manual but will try to download one.

Bike was serviced prior to my collection so have not done anything as yet.


'16 KTM 300 XCW
 

Offline N[]vA

  • Adventure Geek Extreame!
  • Grey hound
  • ****
  • Bike: Suzuki DR-Z 400
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 8,105
  • Adventure Geek Extreme!
    • Adventure Geek
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 08:46:04 pm »
Fanie take a look at your handle bar angle, I was really struggling with the feel of the WR450 when I firts started on it in comparison to the DRZ untill I adjusted hte bars.

Flying around on it now :D

Also want to work on my front suspenion as I keep bottoming it out  :ricky:
So much of win it hurts! ^.^


http://www.adventuregeek.co.za/
 

Offline wolf skaap

Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 11:04:55 pm »
Glad you like the bike!
Compared to my KTM's the X is better in sweeping/twisty tracks and it has much more bottom/mid compared to Louwrens Mahoney's 450 that I had.
KTM was much better in rocks. But thats OK as I like the flowing sensation the X gives when giving it stick in the twisties.

For 2006 and up, the third gear had holes drilled into it to allow for better lubing and 650ml is supposed to work fine, but everyone still runs 900ml for good measure.
I would recommend to rather run 900ml.
So in total, the engine runs on 1.6L oil, almost the same as XR600   :thumleft:

Your X already has a good damper as standard so I would not bother.
Have you tried tubliss?
It's the best upgrade I've done so far (still need to upgrade the forks though!)

P.S. I also had a couple callouses after last weekend's riding (quite rare for me) and I've been toying with the idea of flex bars.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2013, 11:09:50 pm by wolf skaap »
Let the good times roll!
 

Offline Motties

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 1090 Adventure R
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 2,047
  • Thanked: 7 times
  • Was Darksider
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 11:22:07 pm »
Glad you like the bike!
Compared to my KTM's the X is better in sweeping/twisty tracks and it has much more bottom/mid compared to Louwrens Mahoney's 450 that I had.
KTM was much better in rocks. But thats OK as I like the flowing sensation the X gives when giving it stick in the twisties.

For 2006 and up, the third gear had holes drilled into it to allow for better lubing and 650ml is supposed to work fine, but everyone still runs 900ml for good measure.
I would recommend to rather run 900ml.
So in total, the engine runs on 1.6L oil, almost the same as XR600   :thumleft:

Your X already has a good damper as standard so I would not bother.
Have you tried tubliss?
It's the best upgrade I've done so far (still need to upgrade the forks though!)

P.S. I also had a couple callouses after last weekend's riding (quite rare for me) and I've been toying with the idea of flex bars :peepwall:.
Or foam grips maybe? I use them on the 690 and works very well with my ape hands. May consider this for longer events.

I have had some bad experiences (luck?) with tubliss and will not easily use. I think the forks should be looked at first, wonder if HH has a lot of experience with the CRFs? Suppose he will
be the best in any event.
'16 KTM 300 XCW
 

Offline wolf skaap

Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2013, 11:55:35 pm »
I have had some bad experiences (luck?) with tubliss
What happened?

Nvm the flexx bars. They are so damn expensive I'd much rather throw 5K at my forks
« Last Edit: December 23, 2013, 12:07:42 am by wolf skaap »
Let the good times roll!
 

Offline Motties

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: KTM 1090 Adventure R
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 2,047
  • Thanked: 7 times
  • Was Darksider
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 07:46:13 am »
I have had some bad experiences (luck?) with tubliss
What happened?

Nvm the flexx bars. They are so damn expensive I'd much rather throw 5K at my forks
More prone to punctures than a HD tube in my opinion.
'16 KTM 300 XCW
 

Offline Rolling Stone

  • Race Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: BMW R1200GS HP2
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 2,036
Re: 450X First ride, first impressions
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2013, 02:01:48 pm »
Glad you like the bike!
Compared to my KTM's the X is better in sweeping/twisty tracks and it has much more bottom/mid compared to Louwrens Mahoney's 450 that I had.
KTM was much better in rocks. But thats OK as I like the flowing sensation the X gives when giving it stick in the twisties.

For 2006 and up, the third gear had holes drilled into it to allow for better lubing and 650ml is supposed to work fine, but everyone still runs 900ml for good measure.
I would recommend to rather run 900ml.
So in total, the engine runs on 1.6L oil, almost the same as XR600   :thumleft:

Your X already has a good damper as standard so I would not bother.
Have you tried tubliss?


It's the best upgrade I've done so far (still need to upgrade the forks though!)

P.S. I also had a couple callouses after last weekend's riding (quite rare for me) and I've been toying with the idea of flex bars :peepwall:.
Or foam grips maybe? I use them on the 690 and works very well with my ape hands. May consider this for longer events.

I have had some bad experiences (luck?) with tubliss and will not easily use. I think the forks should be looked at first, wonder if HH has a lot of experience with the CRFs? Suppose he will
be the best in any event.
Think that HH did the setup for Koos on his rally bikes.