Author Topic: Trail Tech vapor thoughts (Read 3217 times)

Milaatz · « **on:** July 04, 2014, 10:24:10 am »

Hi guys, im a fairly new dr rider but loving every sec of it. ive put on about 4000 km in just over 1,5 months lol.
i wanted to know what u guys think of the trail tech vapor bike computer.
-How much they shoulf go for??
-How accurate the heat sensor are??
-how responsive the rpm meter are??
-Where i could get a hold of one ??
shot guys

Milaatz · « **Reply #1 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:27:03 am »

O ja , im riding a dr 650 '08 model

evansv · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:28:30 am »

I don't know about DR's, but I've just bought one for my 625, as it doesn't come standard with a temperature gauge, or even a warning light! I think that's crazy on a water cooled bike!

I haven't got mine yet, but will let you know what I think after it's fitted.

LouisXander · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:30:28 am »

Stay away from them. We all are looking at alternatives to the trailtech range. They do not last.

evansv · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:31:19 am »

Suggestions?

LouisXander · « **Reply #5 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:34:55 am »

Like I said Evans. The problem is there aint any available in SA. You can import but it is costly lately.

Look at a seperate heat gauge installed the same way. But they just do not last. And they are quite costly.

Woestynhond · « **Reply #6 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:35:39 am »

Acewell make decent speedos, not locally available though! Ebay etc...

LouisXander · « **Reply #7 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:36:39 am »

Thats the name I was looking for! Try Acewell

Woestynhond · « **Reply #8 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:42:10 am »

I installed a automotive type oil temp gage on my DR so far lasting ok.... Installed sender unit in place of oil pressure service plug/bolt whatever.

LouisXander · « **Reply #9 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:44:57 am »

Was exactly what I meant Evans. Look at that rather.

Milaatz · « **Reply #10 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:46:39 am »

shot guys , you have given me alot to think about

Woestynhond · « **Reply #11 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:55:46 am »

I cannot remember what make of sender unit i used but thread exactly same as casing and sender is small and compact will not be in the way of a bashplate.
Rest of wiring easy , just make a bracket that goes on the handlebar bolts and awaY ya go!

The sparkplug mounted sensor (Thermistor ) is a waste of time you want to get temperature in the guts of engine where it matters more! head warms up quick and then you think bike is up to riding temperature while in fact transmission etc is still ice cold!

You do get a sender unit for the trailtech that replaces your oil drain plug but its seperate purchase and pricey! i guess that using an automotive sender unit like installed the way i did will also work with trailtech!

pielas · « **Reply #12 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:59:19 am »

I have had vapor on a couple of my bikes ( XR650R & XR 400) and although i didn't connect the temp sensor on the 400, it worked well enough on the watercooled 650R. I quite like the Vapors, and am currently looking for one for the DR aswell. They are available , from between 1500 & 2000, just google them you will find. I found the rpm sensor very accurate on both. It is basically a wire that you wrap around the spark-plug wire, and it picks up whenever there is a spark, so dont think it can go wrong and is instant in response.

I very much doubt that you will ever have to measure the temp in a DR, I have yet to hear of anyone that has failed because of high temp issues. The SACS system used is very efficient. That said, I am working on a MOD on my DR where oil temp measurement is fairly important, and as such will be installing an oil temp meter ( 2 in fact) one from the Vapor and another an aftermarket one for cars that I picked up for R150.

Quote from: Woestynhond on July 04, 2014, 10:42:10 am

I installed a automotive type oil temp gage on my DR so far lasting ok.... Installed sender unit in place of oil pressure service plug/bolt whatever.

Woestynhond, where is the "oil pressure service plug/bolt whatever" located on the engine? sounds like a good place I can use as well. I have seen some people use aftermarket sensors where the oil cap is ( that are too short to reach the oil, btw).

Woestynhond · « **Reply #13 on:** July 04, 2014, 11:19:42 am »

Located on bottom of engine just in front of oil drain plug appx 10 cm, thats on the newer 650SE not sure of older dr. Primarily used on services to check the pressure - condition of oil pump but being gear driven it is unlikely to break!

I think it was a Ford or Merc sender unit i used, thread section on sender very short so i didint use a ally washer just little silicone and not over tightened!

Similar to this little sucker except it has a spade connector that i bent 90 degrees to make it more compact.

Woestynhond · « **Reply #14 on:** July 04, 2014, 11:23:12 am »

I only use the guage to make sure engine is at race temperature before i start riding like a raped ape!

How are your mods coming along? Done the forks yet?

CliveG · « **Reply #15 on:** July 04, 2014, 11:28:05 am »

I got one of these. Koso have a large range.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Koso-DB-01R-Multi-Function-Electronic-Speedometer-/231237531742?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d6d4b85e&vxp=mtr

pielas · « **Reply #16 on:** July 04, 2014, 11:42:06 am »

Quote from: Woestynhond on July 04, 2014, 11:23:12 am

I only use the guage to make sure engine is at race temperature before i start riding like a raped ape!

How are your mods coming along? Done the forks yet?

nah, abandoned the forkin fork idea for now, turned out mine could be straightened. Will take too much work (and R's) to get the KTM triple clamp/steering stem to fit.

Busy with FCR carb and an interesting oil cooler relocation mod, will post about the oil cooler when finished. I would need to measure the oil temp before and after the oil cooler, before and after the mod to make sure it is still effective, and not maybe too effective

. This has, as far as I could find, not been attempted before so I am treading on unknown territory. Running into some obstacles but will ( hopefully) find ways to overcome them.

Wow Clive, that Koso looks great!! At first glance a little pricey, but then again, to get the Vapor to look like that you have to ( separately) purchase the dash with lights, etc which is almost as expensive as the Vapor itself. When I check compatibilty I get: This part is not compatible with 2008 Suzuki DR650SE --. Will investigate a bit into this

2wdrift · « **Reply #17 on:** July 04, 2014, 11:45:33 am »

Runner told me late last year that he did have vapor's in stock. Maybe just PM him and confirm.

I have not had any issues with the ones I run on my KLR and XR650R

ThomasT · « **Reply #18 on:** July 04, 2014, 11:51:40 am »

I have two Trailtech Vapours one on my CRF and one on my Quad.

When you order it tell them what bike and it comes with all the fittings you need.

I had issues with one and contacted them directly in the states and with in a week I had a replacement part .

Woestynhond · « **Reply #19 on:** July 04, 2014, 12:38:59 pm »

Koso has no temp function.... but fuel level???