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LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« on: September 10, 2014, 12:28:35 pm »
Okay, so if you had a liquid-cooled R1200GS K50 and had about R6,500-00 to burn what would you take? BMW LED spotlights or BMW's new Gear Shift Assist Pro?
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 12:34:20 pm »
If you don't drive at night, the gearshift but the Gearshift can't see a donkey at night standing dead still 200m in front of you.
Sometimes you don't need a plan, just balls :)
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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 12:43:02 pm »
R500 spotlights (same as BMW lights, but without the badge that you pay R6k for) and a road trip. You don't need a gear shifter thing
I'm not saying kill stupid people, I'm saying, remove the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 01:23:06 pm »
R500 spotlights (same as BMW lights, but without the badge that you pay R6k for) and a road trip. You don't need a gear shifter thing
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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 04:40:03 pm »
R500 spotlights (same as BMW lights, but without the badge that you pay R6k for) and a road trip. You don't need a gear shifter thing
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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2014, 05:08:59 pm »
You don't need a BMW R1200GS to start with so using the argument here makes very little sense.

If you like riding hard you will love the GSAP. If you ride at night a lot, the spots will help.

I have both, if I had to choose now, GSAP without a doubt.
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 06:58:54 pm »
GSAP really? for what....racing? Are you really struggling with the gears?
Ek kies die ligte vir veiligheid, hoewel ek moet se die prys is belaglik.  Eintlik het enige byprodukte op die BMW in mal prys!  Die LED is egter heelwat beter as die ander tipes.
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 07:17:49 pm »
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2014, 08:37:40 pm »
Just did a quick unscientific test in my backyard to show spots on my GS - Paid R1700

Bike dims:


Brights:


Spots:
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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2014, 07:36:18 am »
Just did a quick unscientific test in my backyard to show spots on my GS - Paid R1700

Bike dims:


Brights:


Spots:


The difference is amazing SchalkL
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2014, 07:57:50 am »
Okay, so if you had a liquid-cooled R1200GS K50 and had about R6,500-00 to burn what would you take? BMW LED spotlights or BMW's new Gear Shift Assist Pro?

What do YOU want?
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2014, 08:06:37 am »
Bliksem BEEG difference hey  ........spots anyday ..... 
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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2014, 08:42:06 am »
Doesnt that spot light option also include the funky LED line around the headlight?
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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2014, 09:22:46 am »
Doesnt that spot light option also include the funky LED line around the headlight?

No, you're referring to the complete LED headlight? The daylight running light is a "C" shaped LED around the brights.
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2014, 10:56:09 am »
Some comments:
The LC does not 'need' spots if you have the full LED light cluster...
Spots can be acquired for a lot less than the BMW integrated kit. They are nice but not that nice.

You have to decide what you want/need as Garfield indicated.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2014, 11:01:09 am by Lord Knormoer »
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2014, 11:13:55 am »
Some comments:
The LC does not 'need' spots if you have the full LED light cluster...
Spots can be acquired for a lot less than the BMW integrated kit. They are nice but not that nice.

You have to decide what you want/need as Garfield indicated.

I disagree, but only slightly  ;)

I find that the LED headlight of the LC makes a much sharper line where the light ends, i.e. where light meets dark. A normal headlight fades nicely, while the LED light tends to have a more defined, absolute line where the light ends. The darkness around that is much darker than a normal headlight.

I have noticed this in general with LED lights, including the LED spotlights I have at home. The light they emit is very directional, unlike a normal incadescent or flourescent type lamp that spreads its light in all directions.

I'm looking to fit spots just to overcome this issue for me. The fact that it makes me more visible to others is a bonus.
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2014, 11:24:14 am »
Some comments:
The LC does not 'need' spots if you have the full LED light cluster...
Spots can be acquired for a lot less than the BMW integrated kit. They are nice but not that nice.

You have to decide what you want/need as Garfield indicated.

I disagree, but only slightly  ;)

I find that the LED headlight of the LC makes a much sharper line where the light ends, i.e. where light meets dark. A normal headlight fades nicely, while the LED light tends to have a more defined, absolute line where the light ends. The darkness around that is much darker than a normal headlight.

I have noticed this in general with LED lights, including the LED spotlights I have at home. The light they emit is very directional, unlike a normal incadescent or flourescent type lamp that spreads its light in all directions.

I'm looking to fit spots just to overcome this issue for me. The fact that it makes me more visible to others is a bonus.

I agree with you 100% OomD
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2014, 11:25:08 am »
Okay, so if you had a liquid-cooled R1200GS K50 and had about R6,500-00 to burn what would you take? BMW LED spotlights or BMW's new Gear Shift Assist Pro?

What do YOU want?

Still undecided Garfield  :imaposer:
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2014, 11:31:59 am »
Okay, so if you had a liquid-cooled R1200GS K50 and had about R6,500-00 to burn what would you take? BMW LED spotlights or BMW's new Gear Shift Assist Pro?

What do YOU want?

Still undecided Garfield  :imaposer:

In that case my vote goes to "Neither" - keep the money and ride the bike for a while longer and the choice will make itself, or use the money towards a decent road trip somewhere nice.
 

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Re: LED Spotlights vs. GSAP
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2014, 06:52:42 pm »
The LED optional lights is not spot lights, they are auxiliary head lights with the purpose to through a wider beam and not focused light.  The angle is 30deg. sideways which increases your visibility