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KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« on: July 12, 2016, 07:47:12 pm »

So here is a bold statement: KTM is one of the most unreliable brands of modern times: Am I suitably qualified to make such a statement? Well? Here is my facts….
I am 44 years old and have been riding bikes since I was 18 years old, for 20 years I have been riding road bikes only, and only then have I switched to dual purpose, and stick with it for the last six years.
In my riding time I have been through 25 odd bikes, the bikes spanning from 20 year old Honda CB750F2 with 100 000 abused kilometres to newer bikes. From this gross number of bikes I have owned, two were KTM`s and these two bikes are the only ones to have ever given me more trouble than riding pleasure.
Now, KTM HQ will probably like to stick their nose in here and point out that I have taken hold of 2nd hand machines that have been abused.
The first KTM was a 640 LC prestige motard that had 10 000km on the odo and was still under guarantee, with one previous owner. This bike used to cut out at intermittently at every second opportunity, even taking the bike to agents/several other suitably qualified technicians never solved the problem.
Then a couple of years went by, and after sampling various dual purpose bikes including Honda,BMW and Suzuki, my heart was aching for a KTM 690 enduro. C`mon. who can resist such a beautiful package with suspension, brakes and performance.
Yes, it is a 2009 model, previously owned. With 27 000km on it. Agent serviced. I have done 3 000km on this bike and it have left me stranded on the side of the road more times than I care to remember. I have more confidence in a Chinese scooter than with this bike.
OK, KTM will be the first to point out that I buy 2nd hand bikes and are not their target market. I can understand that. But I do want you, the 2nd hand buyer, to take note of the shortcomings, of the KTM brand. It is flawed. Seriously flawed.
Why was the Husqvarna 701 launched? To hide the inability of the 690 to run day in day out? Was it a marketing ploy to cover how bad the armour of the 690 is?  Yes, I am also so much aware of guys like Noah Horak who use KTM to travel long distance. If Noah wasn’t an electrical engineer with hands on knowledge to fix a bike, would he seriously consider circumnavigating the globe on a KTM?
At this point the BMW guys are probably eager to step in and reply how trustworthy their machines are, I have owned a couple of BMWs in my life and they are in every respect  as much as a Toyota, very reliable but not very desirable.
Which leaves us with the Japanese brands, the likes of the DR650 and Xr650 which no longer are allowed to grace our showroom floors as new bikes. It is a pity. Maybe not as exciting as a KTM 690, but then excitement is over rated when calling a buddy to come trailer you home.
Oh, before I forget this is not a desperate call on KTM to come offer to solve their problems. The inside of my garage will never see a KTM again, and I bet if we launched a poll right now to see how many new KTM`s have made its way back to the dealer on the back of a trailer, if will probably be outnumber the number of happy KTM customers.
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2016, 07:55:19 pm »
Oh before I forget, why don't you tell us about the Problem that left you stranded next to the Road.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 07:56:14 pm »
Well written and interesting viewpoints Altie!
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2016, 08:02:26 pm »
Oh before I forget, why don't you tell us about the Problem that left you stranded next to the Road.

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 08:12:06 pm »
Oh before I forget, why don't you tell us about the Problem that left you stranded next to the Road.

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He is asking KTM Owners for their Opinion.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 08:14:11 pm »
In 35 years of riding bikes I have been let down the most by Hondas, Suzukis and Kawasakis.  I have been riding the same KTM since 2008 and it has never given me any issues except for a dud battery. This bike has visited every corner of this country and has done everything from technical off-road to high speed long distance, two-up with luggage.  It is the most reliable bike of the thirty plus I have owned in my life. You can’t generalise just because you have had issues. There are thousands of people who  whose experience is the opposite of yours.
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2016, 08:14:45 pm »
It always saddens me when I read a write-up like this.  I am sure no manufacturer produces a bad product because their business plan calls for a bad product.  When we buy them we pay with hard earned bucks and we expect the fun and enjoyment to make the loss of the hard earned cash well worth it.  When it doesn't, it is hugely frustrating.

Sorry to hear you are in such a position.
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2016, 08:17:36 pm »
One of our riding buddies has sold his 690 and bought an XR650L for abovementioned reasons. May be a bit of a stretch to touch terra firma for him on his left or his right leg at any given time on the new bike but with an XRL you only gotta worry about the CDI breaking once.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2016, 08:26:46 pm »
Oh before I forget, why don't you tell us about the Problem that left you stranded next to the Road.

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He is asking KTM Owners for their Opinion.

Not yet.  He wonders what the outcome would be if he started a poll.  I wonder if he will.

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2016, 08:32:29 pm »
Maybe the 990 class is more reliable than the 690s?
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2016, 08:38:34 pm »
In 35 years of riding bikes I have been let down the most by Hondas, Suzukis and Kawasakis.  I have been riding the same KTM since 2008 and it has never given me any issues except for a dud battery. This bike has visited every corner of this country and has done everything from technical off-road to high speed long distance, two-up with luggage.  It is the most reliable bike of the thirty plus I have owned in my life. You can’t generalise just because you have had issues. There are thousands of people who  whose experience is the opposite of yours.

Perhaps you were in a situation where you struggled to properly maintain the Jap bikes, yet were financially better of by the time you got the KTM?
Because, by the beards of the gods, it is impossible for a KTM to be more reliable than Japanese bikes.
A 1984 KTM 495 made me swear an oath to never own the shit again, an oath I broke to buy the 690 2 years ago. And it reminded me immediately of my oath-breaking.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2016, 08:43:20 pm »
My 950 Adventure. 57000km and not one single issue (owned two an a half years)
My 990S , 75000km and never let down. (owned 5 years)
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2016, 08:45:34 pm »
One of our riding buddies has sold his 690 and bought an XR650L for abovementioned reasons. May be a bit of a stretch to touch terra firma for him on his left or his right leg at any given time on the new bike but with an XRL you only gotta worry about the CDI breaking once.

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2016, 08:45:45 pm »
I think the earlier 690's had some issues, but consider the performance of the bikes when compared to other options and you might accept the risks.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2016, 08:53:09 pm »
My dr had an engine 'grenade',
My klr used more oil than fuel.
My 950 & 690 ktm's were a pleasure to own.
 

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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2016, 08:55:49 pm »

My 950 & 690 ktm's were a pleasure to own.

Both sold at very high mileage with no issues.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2016, 08:56:52 pm »
I think the earlier 690's had some issues, but consider the performance of the bikes when compared to other options and you might accept the risks.

The performance of both engine and chassis led me to buy one, but far from reliable. Of all our outrides, there is at least one 690 inbound on a trailer.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 08:59:15 pm »
I think the earlier 690's had some issues, but consider the performance of the bikes when compared to other options and you might accept the risks.

The performance of both engine and chassis led me to buy one, but far from reliable. Of all our outrides, there is at least one 690 inbound on a trailer.

With what type of issues Dan?
 

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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 09:03:24 pm »
All 4 my KTMs have been dead realiable but then again I only use them to putter about in town
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 09:04:19 pm »
Oh boy.
I have owned only one bike that let me down in 36 years or riding bikes.
It was a 84 XR500RE and it dropped valves at the height of sanctions against RSA. Still almost new.
Ive only recently bought a Honda again for the first time.
A bad experience with a brand stays with you for a long time.