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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2017, 08:54:32 am »
Make SKIVVI ROLLS. It packs easy and keeps everything together...
 

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2017, 08:58:21 am »
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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2017, 09:11:41 am »
That is the business there! Thanks for that.

Is that white thing like an old rugby sock of some sort?
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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2017, 10:02:04 am »
no your normal bike socks. Each roll contains:

1.Shirt
2.Jock
3.Bike socks.

Stuff your tooffbrush and paste in there if you ding short trip.
 

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2017, 01:47:56 pm »
Make SKIVVI ROLLS. It packs easy and keeps everything together...

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #65 on: June 29, 2017, 01:21:43 pm »

You forgot your sleeping bag  :lol8: . And Lesotho can still be VERY cold in beginning of August so make sure you have a good one. We were there in October and my minus 5 sleeping bag with 2-3 layers of long sleeve clothing was still not warm enough. Night time temperatures were well below freezing

Don't exaggerate, it was only -4 :lol8: As dit die Snow Valley bash was... ek het daai Sondagoggend my knaters afgevries.
I was at snow valley, night one damaged zip on tent etc bottom corner of sleeping bag got wet, didn't dry out in the day, then the minus four or five. 🙄😎 with wet feet
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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2017, 03:21:08 pm »
How do you lay the space blanket on the stretcher? "blink kant bo" of onder.

I have 2 types of space blankets
1. Comes in medical aid kit (all side same side) i.e. blink kant either way
2. 1 sided blink kant, the other side is some material type thing, in this case red.
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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #67 on: July 18, 2017, 08:21:49 am »
Blink kant towards your body. Think of your body as the heat source. You are trying to keep the heat in.

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #68 on: July 18, 2017, 08:29:39 am »
Just dont put it inside your sleeping bag, unless you are absolutely desperate. They don't breathe well at all, and will cause you to sweat.

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #69 on: July 18, 2017, 08:49:24 am »
Ou army triek:

Koerant papier maak goeie isolasie.

Laag koerantpapie onder jou slaapsak of voor onder jou baadjie is verbasend warm.  :thumleft:
 

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #70 on: July 18, 2017, 09:03:11 am »
Good thread

Yamaha660 if I may hijack a bit here.

My first multi day more than 2 nights coming up in August (7 nights) Lesotho.
We'll be camping for the entire week except one night at a lodge.
On the clothes side I can get away with little (least in my opinion) and would appreciate input from the seasoned minimalists.
3x underwear - it is winter and taking two pairs is risky as the one used and washed siting under the bungee net may not dry.
2x t-shirts - question tshirts or some other t-shirt material but long sleeves
1x thermal underwear in the bag, the other pair I will wear
3x bike socks
Tekkies
Beanie
Inflatable air matress (not the Intek ones) the ones that take up hardly any space and weigh less than 500g
Camp towel (those microfibre ones)
Gloves - other than the ones I'm riding with
Shower stuff
Wet wipes
Small hammer. Think I need to drop the hammer and use a rock other object to drive tent pegs into the ground
2 man tent (CampMaster200)
2x gas butane (230g) for the ATG stove
ATG stove
ATG Stretcher
Headlamp

Also I heard you don't put the stretcher inside the tent but on the ground sheet and the tent over it?

My worry is tools and I think I may be planning too much here
On the bike bag
4x tubes (2x front 2x back) - can probably lose 2 of them
Tyre lever and Ring spanner
No pinch tyre tool (Bikewarehouse)
Tyre repair kit and...wait for it...6x 25g air cartridges
12v Air compressor....here I think I can probably lose the compressor, it is not heavy but does add weight
Multitool  like a leatherman type thing
Set or torx keys
Set of allan keys
Medical bag
Steel putty
Sunlight in a small plastic bottle - I heard it helps with changing tyres
Lappie - do whatever with it
Gas stove and a mug - because you can have coffee wherever
Bladder on my back

We'll have a recovery vehicle so the clothes bag stays with the bakkie. The "on the bike" bag will contain the things I'll need for whichever eventuality (hopefully not)

Is this too much?

Clothes, tent, mattress etc in a 70l bag and the "on bike" in a 40l bag made by Pete on WD. I'm reconsidering the "on the bike" bag to my k-way Kilimanjaro 35l bag which can be strapped to the rear seat. It has a rain cover so the stuff will be dry.

Camping in Lesotho, you are braver than me.  With a backup vehicle it makes it easier.  You can even pack a wind shelter on the bakkie for a nice sheltered camp.

Why not just pack enough clothes to eliminate washing and trying to get clothes dry? You have the space on the bakkie.  Keep a few things with you on the bikes in case of separation with the backup vehicle, probably a sleeping bag and maybe a tarp or something. You can always seek shelter in a hut.

Instead of an inflatable mattress maybe take something with a bit more insulation. The self inflating mattress with the memory foam worked for me in cold weather.
Don't like lots of clothes inside a sleeping bag and prefer the liner as Christiaan mentioned above.


Tools
Yes, only one set of tyres and repair kit in case of multiple punctures.
With air bombs I would also drop the compressor but then add a mountain bike pump. To find a puncture hole you don't want to waste bombs.
Torx keys can be used in place of allen keys in an emergency. But rather go through your bike and only take the necessary stuff.
Not on your list: Normal pliers, screwdrivers (reversible Phillips and flat), sockets and spanners (1/4inch drive is enough and go through the bike to see what you need)
Maybe also a good idea to take a few bolts and nuts with you. You get small box kits of bolts from off road bike stores which you can probably compare to your bike and reduce by half.
Then most important: cable ties and duct tape (I also pack insulation tape)
For sunlight liquid an old toothpaste tube also work good.
 

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #72 on: July 18, 2017, 11:11:16 am »
Camping in Lesotho, you are braver than me.  With a backup vehicle it makes it easier.  You can even pack a wind shelter on the bakkie for a nice sheltered camp.

Why not just pack enough clothes to eliminate washing and trying to get clothes dry? You have the space on the bakkie.  Keep a few things with you on the bikes in case of separation with the backup vehicle, probably a sleeping bag and maybe a tarp or something. You can always seek shelter in a hut.

Instead of an inflatable mattress maybe take something with a bit more insulation. The self inflating mattress with the memory foam worked for me in cold weather.
Don't like lots of clothes inside a sleeping bag and prefer the liner as Christiaan mentioned above.


Tools
Yes, only one set of tyres and repair kit in case of multiple punctures.
With air bombs I would also drop the compressor but then add a mountain bike pump. To find a puncture hole you don't want to waste bombs.
Torx keys can be used in place of allen keys in an emergency. But rather go through your bike and only take the necessary stuff.
Not on your list: Normal pliers, screwdrivers (reversible Phillips and flat), sockets and spanners (1/4inch drive is enough and go through the bike to see what you need)
Maybe also a good idea to take a few bolts and nuts with you. You get small box kits of bolts from off road bike stores which you can probably compare to your bike and reduce by half.
Then most important: cable ties and duct tape (I also pack insulation tape)
For sunlight liquid an old toothpaste tube also work good.

This is the only time we could get and it is going to be a proper adventure 2 1190's and 2 990's plus 3 in the support bakkie.
I'm from Joburg, 1 from Kathu, 2 from Bethlehem (starting point) and 3 from Durban. The bakkie comes from Durban so I have to cart everything to Bethlehem plus there is a possibility that the bakkie may not complete the entire route which means I have to carry everything on the 1190.

I ordered a mattress online and customs is delayed citing huge inflow of goods that they can't clear. It only cost like R 500 and suspect I'll have to fork out a few notes and invest in a proper one from a local retailer.

As for tools here is my setup. I've since added a 3/8 ratchet and 40 and 45 male torx bits to remove the front wheel. Jy sal kak om daai bout met 'n L shape torx los te maak.
I bought the 3/8 because I'm afraid I'll break the 1/2 ratchet, those front bolts are vas. I've also got 3x spare fuses for fuses used by my bike.
I'm only taking tools for my bike i.e. in the hex and torx holder there are many things but I've removed all the ones not fit for the bike.



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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2017, 11:23:52 am »
My sleeping bag is rated
Comfort Temp rating > -3°C
Lower Temp rating > -8°C
Extreme Temp rating > -18°C

So with thermals, fleece top and track pants I should be ok. Got a different type of thermal when on the bike.
Clothes, tent, stretcher, sleeping bag and so on goes inside a motech 60l duffel bag.
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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2017, 11:33:10 am »
Your tool kit looks comprehensive and not excessive and similar to what I normally take along.
I see KTM tools in your kit but some are missing. The other flat spanner that fit in the flat pipe. Some of the sockets/torx bits.
Does the 1190 have a spot under the seat to keep tools?

The L-shape thing with the handle (ktm tool) goes with the KTM sockets and torx bits. You can probably leave that at home if it doesn't fit your sockets. Or use this tool instead and leave the ratchet at home.

If your front wheel clamp bolts are so vas then the torque setting might not be correct. Check that it does not cause other damage.
You can also use a ring spanner over the L-shape torx to add more force.
 

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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2017, 11:34:09 am »
Made some changes since
Luggage bag 40l (on bike)
Tubes
Tyre repair kit and air cartridges
Tyre levers Ring and 2x levers
Tyre tool
Medical bag
Multitool
Torx
Allan key
Air compressor
Small bit of Sunlight
Lappie
Mug
Stove
Few coffee sachets
Wet wipe/ soak wipe tube
Toilet roll
Powerbank
Towrope
1x socks
Tyre valve tool
Passport and travel docs
Space blanket

Main bag 60l (on bakkie)
4x underwear
1x long sleeve t-shirt
1x t-shirt
1x thermal clothing
1x track trousers
2x first ascend tops (fleece)
2x bike socks
1x hiking socks
Tekkies
Beanie
Gloves
Cutlery
Vaube storage bags dirty clothes/clean clothes
Shower items
1x bike jersey?
Fleece jacket
Scarf/Neck warmer
Tent
Mattress
Camp towel
ATG stretcher
Sleeping bag
Powerbank?
Klere was seep (ziplock)
Headlamp
Chain cleaner and toothbrush?

On bike
Camera
Jacket
Gloves
Trousers
Boots
Helmet
Neck brace
1xthermal clothing
Water bladder
Socks
wallet
« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 11:40:16 am by TinusBez »
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Re: What are the essential items needed for a camp trip
« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2017, 11:38:41 am »
I see KTM tools in your kit but some are missing. The other flat spanner that fit in the flat pipe. Some of the sockets/torx bits.
Does the 1190 have a spot under the seat to keep tools?

Yes it does have tool box under the seat and I've removed it and added the essentials to this tool roll. My "under the seat toolbox" was incomplete when I bought the bike.
I've added bits here and there since I bought it. That flat spanner you're talking about is in one of the sleeves I was looking for it and later found it there.

I don't have a torque wrench, must invest in one to torque correctly and mark it as well but that is for another day, those things are expensive and one often needs more than one because of the torque range.
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The Gear list
« Reply #77 on: July 22, 2017, 05:50:12 pm »
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The Gear List
July 21, 2017
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Total Distance travelled 26,425kms
 
I have been asked a few times to outline all the gear I take with me. So for all my fellow adventure riders here we go, I am sure I will have missed a few bit and pieces but this is the majority of my gear.
 

 
The Camping Gear
 
MSR 2 man lightweight tent
Sea to Summit large inflatable sleeping mat
Sea to Summit Sleeping bag 5 degrees c
Sea to Summit Large inflatable pillow
Sea to Summit Sleeping bag liner
Sea to Summit Ground cover – to go under tent
Sea to Summit Tarp – to cover the bike
Soto Muka Stove
Sea to Summit folding cooking bowl and cup
Titanium cutlery
Folding seat
 

The Riding Gear
 
Klim Adventure Rally Jacket
Klim Adventure Rally Pants
Sidi Crossfire 2 boots
Arai XD4 helmet
Klim Powerxross gloves
Klim Mojave gloves
Moulded earplugs
Ray ban Polarized sunglasses
 
 
Cold Weather Riding Gear
 
Icebreaker thermal top
2XU thermal skins
Jagged cycling leg warmers
Icebreaker thermal socks
North face fleecy jumper
2 x plastic bags to keep my toes dry
2 x Buffs
 
Clothes
 
5 x underpants
3 x Thor cool thermal socks
3 x tee shirts
1 x polo shirt
2 x hiking pants light weight
I x lightweight jacket
1 x beanie
hiking shoes
Spare sunglasses – I tend to loose a few pairs
 
Camera Gear
 
Nikon D5
Nikon D500
Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 lens
Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 lens
Nikon 2 x convertor
Sena 10c helmet camera
Gopro Hero session 5
2 x WD 2terra byte hard drives
Apple MacBook pro
Camera chargers for each camera
Spare cables for each camera
SD and CF card reader
Sirui N2204X Carbon fibre tripod
Domke soft camera bag
 
The Communications Gear
 
Inmarsat Satellite phone
In Reach Explorer tracker
IPhone 6s
Garmin 595LM
 
The Bike Spare Parts List
 
1 x fuel injector
2 x spark plugs
6 x inline fuel filters
4 x oil filters
Spare fuses
Spare tyre valves
1 x heavy-duty front tube
1 x heavy-duty rear tube
Puncture repair kit
3 x air filter socks
Spare fuel cap
Spare fuel injection fittings and connectors
Spare fuel injection hose
Hose clamps
Chemi weld
Race tape
Electrical tape
Spare brake and clutch lever
Front and rear brake pads
Spare chain master link
Bag of nuts, bolts and washers
Cable ties
1l of 10w60 synthetic oil
Can of chain lube
 
The Tool List
 
Spanners 6 mm to 18mm combination set
Motion pro 2 x T6 combination axle spanner and tyre lever
Motion pro Bead pro tire breaker and lever tool set
Motion pro MP metric tool kit
KTM factory tool kit
Micro multimeter
Leatherman
Pliers
Screwdrivers
Mechanic gloves
Neoprene gloves
Electric air compressor
Manual hand pump for tyres - as a backup
Touratech Jumper Battery
Headlight torch
A few rags
 
The Food
 
This varies as I travel, but this is what I start out with
8 Backcountry dry food packs
15 protein bars
3l of water in a camelback that is inside the Klim Adventure jacket
 
 
The Misc Stuff
 
First aid kit
EDV gear Tourniquet
Hat
Tissue packs
Hard copies of country maps
Disc lock for the front disc
Cable and master lock (to lock the rear of the bike at night)
Spare keys for the bike
Note pad and pens
Travel documents
Carnet
Aussie kangaroo key rings – to give away, they work a treat at border crossings
Oh yeah – some money
2 x Touratech hard panniers
2 x Kriega 10l soft bags
2 x Touratech pannier liner bags
1 x Touratech document bag - fits inside the lid of a pannier
Moto 30l drybag


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Re: The Gear list
« Reply #78 on: July 22, 2017, 06:10:45 pm »
Would be nice to see his packed bike with that gear.
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Re: The Gear list
« Reply #79 on: July 22, 2017, 06:13:16 pm »
We leave it a bit and then I'm going to merge with this thread http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=206433.0

Otherwise we start the whole discussion all over.
A F'ugly is a different sort of bike, the 1150 is boring and the 1100s makes me smile.

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