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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2017, 11:04:37 am »
Gaan jy dalk nie "hone" met nuwe ringe nie? :o
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2017, 11:13:32 am »
Gaan jy dalk nie "hone" met nuwe ringe nie? :o

Ek het daai barrel so gekyk (nog nie af gehaal nie), en ek kon nie eers n merkie sien nie.

Ek sal mooi kyk sodra ek die cylinder af gehaal het, maar ek glo nie dat dit nodig sal wees nie.

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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2017, 11:24:26 am »
Jy moet mos "hone".

Gaan mos nie oor skade nie, maar sodat ringe kan "seat". Cylinder moet "grof" wees.

Ek twyfel, maar ek mag verkeerd wees.
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2017, 11:44:49 am »
 maybe get it honed,

Ek sal dit doen. :deal:
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2017, 12:33:21 pm »
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2017, 01:39:36 pm »
Since the last post I went on holiday, lekker Struisbaai, got new rings and base gasket and a new second hand front wheel.

Took the cylinder off.

The barrel seems more than fine.
The chafe marks are not even as deep as the honing marks. Good sign.

The oil ring did not seem collapsed or damaged at all.
The openings in the rings are spaced correctly.

So where the oil came from I do not know, there's only 3 possibilities:
1) Head - checked and valve stem seals replaced
2) Rings - fitting new ones
3) Gaskets - fitting new ones

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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2017, 01:42:26 pm »
I also cleaned the head and piston
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2017, 02:14:05 pm »
Goeie werk! Laat weet sodra sy weer loop.


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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2017, 02:16:24 pm »
Goeie werk! Laat weet sodra sy weer loop.


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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2017, 02:46:16 pm »
Since the last post I went on holiday, lekker Struisbaai, got new rings and base gasket and a new second hand front wheel.

Took the cylinder off.

The barrel seems more than fine.
The chafe marks are not even as deep as the honing marks. Good sign.

The oil ring did not seem collapsed or damaged at all.
The openings in the rings are spaced correctly.

So where the oil came from I do not know, there's only 3 possibilities:
1) Head - checked and valve stem seals replaced
2) Rings - fitting new ones
3) Gaskets - fitting new ones
Two questions:

What's with the chip-outs on the bottom end of your piston? It looks like pieces of metal broke out there brittly. Or is that how they are manufactured?

Are there good reasons against reducing the weight of the piston by grinding away some of the excess material?  :pot: Compare KLR 685 piston to stock piston:
« Last Edit: August 30, 2017, 02:51:18 pm by Piet »
 

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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2017, 09:27:25 am »
Two questions:

What's with the chip-outs on the bottom end of your piston? It looks like pieces of metal broke out there brittly. Or is that how they are manufactured?

Are there good reasons against reducing the weight of the piston by grinding away some of the excess material?  :pot: Compare KLR 685 piston to stock piston:

Hi Piet,

Yes manufactures like that.

I have it as to give clearance for valve opening, so there is no interference.

I now see what you are referring to, no its manufactured like that. probably to let oil pass easily.

I have never thought of the idea to take metal of a piston to reduce weight myself!
The risks with regard to piston failure as result of compromised structural integrity is just too high.

High performance/higher compression pistons that are the way to go...
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2017, 09:49:01 am »
Daar was baie carbon op jou piston gewees ?
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2017, 10:09:02 am »
Daar was baie carbon op jou piston gewees ?

Jip, syt lekker gerook op startup, kon nie veel agterkom as ek ry nie, maar dan weer ek kyk nie veel agtertoe nie en Kykdaar is altyd sover agter hy kon ook nie sien nie!

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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2017, 01:22:32 pm »
All in a nights work:

Cleaned the cylinder
Cleaned the rocker cover
Installed new rings
Installed the cylinder and base gasket
Installed the head and head gasket
Installed the cam

Nothing torqued yet, I am in dispute with the manual (more on that later).

Fitted the fuel tap
New wheel bearings and dust seal for the front wheel.

En so bietjie foggies net om als mooi gelube to hou...
« Last Edit: August 31, 2017, 01:25:07 pm by Matie spero »
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2017, 01:30:24 pm »
Gelukkig nog 'n halwe bottel oor vir vanaand! :o

Wat pla van die manual? ???
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2017, 01:33:15 pm »
When I removed the head bolts I placed them, in the sequence I took them out, on the floor.

The manual has a different sequence, I have it that B and C should swop around...
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2017, 01:38:20 pm »
Is dit die tappet cover boute waarvan sommiges die brass washer vir die oliekanaal het?

As jy die boute laat sak, voor jy hulle indraai, meet die afstand tussen die boutkop en cylinder head. Dalk word jy iets wys?
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2017, 01:40:17 pm »
Is dit die tappet cover boute waarvan sommiges die brass washer vir die oliekanaal het?

As jy die boute laat sak, voor jy hulle indraai, meet die afstand tussen die boutkop en cylinder head. Dalk word jy iets wys?

Nee dis die lang head bolts wat onder in die casings vas trek.

Het hulle in my volgorde in gesit en almal was ewe hoog van die head af
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2017, 01:48:28 pm »
Bevestig dat 2 van die head bolts, wat buite die tappet cover is, die brass washers op het?

Het jy die washers verwyder, of is hul nog daar?

Kan dalk 'n fout in die manual wees?

My logika se vir my om die afstand tussen bout kop en cylinder head te meet, soos wat jy reeds gedoen het.

Indien jy die twee gaan omruil, soos per manual, sal daar 'n groot verskil in die kop tot cylinderhead afstand wees, wat nie korrek is nie.
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Re: 2009 DR 650 SE - The repair, farkle and abuse of Deedre
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2017, 01:48:40 pm »
When I removed the head bolts I placed them, in the sequence I took them out, on the floor.

The manual has a different sequence, I have it that B and C should swop around...

OK so ek is reg en die Manual is verkeerd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OEM parts list ek op internet kry het dit soos ek dit het.
Die twee 180mm boude kom links (ander kant van cam chain) en nie voor soos die manual se nie.

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